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Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by mysterydip on Thursday March 16, 2017 @01:45PM (#13887114)
It would be an interesting experiment if there was a search engine that ran on a heuristic of novelty rather than conformity. If you want to search for the history of pineapples, you don't need 100 sites with the same info. The more varied info you get, the broader a picture you can paint.

The downside is in the assumption that every difference is correct, but it's as dangerous as the assumption that only what is repeated is correct. Would be an interesting alternative at least.

Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by manarth on Thursday March 16, 2017 @06:45PM (#13889847)

  If you want to search for the history of pineapples,
  you don't need 100 sites with the same info.
"Pineapples grow from a plant in the tropics."

"Pineapples are grown in equatorial countries."

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"Pineapples, when ripe, have a very sweet taste."

"Ripe pineapples have a high concentration of sugar."

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"The etymology of the word for pineapple is 'excellent fruit' in the language of Tupi, although the english English translation is an aberration, with a stem of 'pine' due to it's resemblance to a pine cone."

"Most European languages name the fruit using the root word 'nanas', from the original native language where it was grown. Many languages have adapted the root word, although a few have a large degree of uncertainty, such as the origin of the reference to 'apple' in the English word."

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It would need a fairly decent AI to recognise the commonality of information in these examples.

Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by Taek on Thursday March 16, 2017 @07:40PM (#13890147)
I think people often underestimate the power of much simpler methods. You'd probably get substantial improvements over the baseline just by penalizing sites for having the same words too many times. I forget the exact number, but I think it's something like 50% of the words in your average article appear only once. So if two articles have even 5% similarity among the words they only use once, they are probably quite similar.

AI of course can get you much farther still, but you definitely don't need something that powerful for a convincing upgrade from baseline.

Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by tomcam on Sunday March 19, 2017 @10:36PM (#13911299)
Google is way way past that point. It worked that way 10 years ago and was exploited, so they added many more signals, generally far subtler than that.
Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by jclos on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:54PM (#13888576)
It's even more odd considering diversity in page ranking and novelty in recommendation are well studied (although not solved) problems in information retrieval, so it's not like there isn't a solution. And it's not like Google doesn't have the human or computer resources to tackle it.
Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by dasil003 on Thursday March 16, 2017 @01:54PM (#13887220)
The blackhat SEO would at least be interesting if not terrifying.
Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by Xeoncross on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:56PM (#13888590)
I would assume that to counter the junk/spam/wrong information that would develop (even unintentionally) about a topic you would have to combine this with a "trust" ranking like PageRank.

Basically, only more mainstream sites have the right to present different views which leads you back to square one: Repeating information.

Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by zachkatz on Thursday March 16, 2017 @08:12PM (#13890289)
If you market it right, I think you could have a wildly successful "counterculture" search engine.
Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by jtraffic on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:22PM (#13888223)
You could also use current search algorithms but add a penalty for redundancy. Or perhaps group similar results. I've always like the idea of column-based web results. I suppose some of what Google does has this flavor.
Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by M_Grey on Thursday March 16, 2017 @04:24PM (#13888838)
Even better, add settings the user can tweak for which heuristic setup you want. Put it behind enough layers of dashboards that it doesn't terrify the average user.
Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by dredmorbius on Friday March 17, 2017 @07:25AM (#13893109)
The heuristics you're looking for are accuracy and relevance.

The problem is that PageRank is no longer delivering on these.

Re:False information on the internet is hiding the truth abo... by apetresc on Thursday March 16, 2017 @04:36PM (#13888937)
Certainly it's not _as_ dangerous.