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Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by mlillie on Monday February 06, 2017 @09:41PM (#13586528)
OK, I need to add my favorite Russian joke here:

A German and a Russian die. Neither has been the best person in their life, so they get sent down there. When they arrive in hell, the devil says, "Well, especially bad people have been dying lately, and we're all full up. I can only accept one of you, the other will go to purgatory and get a chance at redemption."

He proposes a simple test of their human decency: Each man is given a dog, a huge crate of sausages and one month to teach the dog a trick.

One month later, the devil returns to the German, who has clearly bonded with his now-plump dog. "Alright, let's see what you've got!" the devil says. The German plucks out a sausage and proceeds to wiggle it in the air. The dog, perfectly balanced on its hind legs, does an acrobatic pirouette. "Wow!" says satan. "Impressive!"

He walks over to the Russian his dog, whose relationship seems strained. The dog looks like a wild animal, but the Russian seems satisfied enough. "OK, show us your trick," the devil says. The Russian plucks out a sausage and proceeds to wiggle it in the air. The dog, wide-eyed, says "Please, Vanya, just one sausage!"

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by Tloewald on Monday February 06, 2017 @10:09PM (#13586659)
My favorite is along similar lines:

A Russian and an American bond in the afterlife while waiting to find out where they are headed. Eventually Satan shows up and says, "bad news, you both are going to hell, but you can choose Russian hell or American hell."

"What's the difference?" they ask.

'Well, says Satan. 'In American hell you have to eat a shovel load of shit once per day. The rest of your time is your own. In Russian hell you have to eat two shovel loads of shit, and the rest of your time is your own."

"That seems easy," says the American, "I choose American hell." And in a flash he is gone.

Years later, he finds a gap in the wall dividing the two hells and is able to talk to his Russian friend. 'Why on earth did you pick Russian hell? American hell is just great. We eat our shovel load of shit each day and then we're free to do what we want."

"Comrade," replies the Russian, "in Russian hell, most days there is no shit to eat, and when there is, there is no shovel."

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by pandaman on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @12:29AM (#13587310)
I know a different angle of this one. Reagan visits the USSR and is amazed by the capital construction he has seen.

Reagan: "How do you manage to build structures like this? Your logistics is shit, you have no technology and people are apathetic."

Gorbachev: "Soviet people built it all with great enthusiasm and while singing songs".

Reagan: "Bullshit, it's impossible to motivate people like this in your system. You don't even pay them money!"

Gorbachev: "On the contrary, my friend. It's impossible to motivate people like this in your system. I will prove it to you. Take a cat and motivate it to eat a jar of mustard (Russian mustard is spicy), I will wait."

Reagan's aides spend whole day trying to make the cat eat mustard. They try hiding it in other foods, forcing it to eat, talking to it but the cat just refuses.

Reagan: "Well, it appears to be impossible to make the damn cat eat this mustard. I doubt you can do it though".

Gorbachev orders his aide and he puts a handful of mustard under the cat's tail. The cat starts wailing and desperately licking the mustard off his balls.

Gorbachev: "Like I said, with great enthusiasm and singing a song".

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by 13of40 on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @01:36AM (#13587563)
An eagle, tired from a long flight, lands in a tree. It looks around and is startled to see a cow is in the tree as well.

"What are you doing in this tree?" says the eagle.

"Well, I came up here to eat apples," replies the cow.

"But this is a pine tree."

"Ah, you see, I brought my own."

(Lady who told me that was from Kamchatka.)

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by mladenkovacevic on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @11:56AM (#13590649)
This one has that sublime absurdist quality so characteristic of eastern europe but it keeps you thinking and translating the characters and concepts into real world situations. Love it.
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by Xdafjgneoiwe on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @04:57AM (#13597110)
Could you explain the joke?
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by sAbakumoff on Monday February 06, 2017 @09:57PM (#13586593)
That's not even a joke. Take a look at this huge list of dogs that Soviet Union sent to the outer space :) https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BA...
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by pandaman on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @01:34AM (#13587559)
There is also a joke about this.

Since the spaceship was technically a military vessel there had to be an officer on board during the mission so a Red Army Colonel had been sent in the same mission with Belka and Strelka (the dogs). As it gets into the orbit a radio communication is established with the Flight Control Center.

Center: Belka, come in!

Belka: woof

Center: Transmit the navigation data, over.

Belka: woof, woof!

[The data transmission completes]

Center: Strelka, come in!

Strelka: woof

Center: You need to fire engine #3 for 5 seconds to correct course, over.

Strelka: woof, woof!

[The observation detects engine firing]

Center: Comrade Colonel, come in.

Colonel: Woof!

Center: Don't "woof" at me, feed the dogs and don't touch anything there, over.

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by eps on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @02:07AM (#13587692)
Except, of course, it wasn't a colonel, but a Chukcha.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_jokes#Chukchi

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by pandaman on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @02:23AM (#13587754)
It is almost the same and easier to understand for non-Russians.
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by sAbakumoff on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @03:22AM (#13587948)
I think that a Chukchi could be more intelligent than USSR army colonel :)
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by sAbakumoff on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @01:53AM (#13587638)
True story. Russian guy's name is Ivan Pavlov.
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by ptaipale on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @03:06PM (#13592245)
I guess that was /s.

FWIW, I recently met someone whose father was a dog-tender for Pavlov. The father was condemned based on Article 58 of the 1934 Soviet penal code (section for "Contacts Leading to Suspicion of Espionage", i.e. he had relatives in Finland) and was for some time in camps and after that, not allowed to keep any good job. A dog-tender was an allowed job; Pavlov was a very nice old man who treated his workers well. Pavlov died then before the war and the family then took a longish tour of the Gulag.

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by sAbakumoff on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @10:43PM (#13595526)
Yeah, I admit that referencing the great scientist I. Pavlov could be inappropriate in that context. It's just the punching line "Please, Vanya, just one sausage!" suggested this terrible joke and I couldn't have resisted.
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by kartD on Monday February 06, 2017 @10:06PM (#13586637)
I don't get it, could you explain it please?
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by andrei_says_ on Monday February 06, 2017 @10:25PM (#13586728)
The Russian guy never gave his dog anything. And yet, his methods were so tough and efficient that he taught the dog to speak and beg in human language.

Could also contain a nod to the patience and unending hope of the Russians under their "stingy" government but that's likely too deep and contradicting their infinite cynicism and complete lack of faith ;)

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by trhway on Monday February 06, 2017 @11:38PM (#13587066)
>methods were so tough and efficient

...

>infinite cynicism and complete lack of faith

yes, the joke is basically stating that as these methods can make a dog speak then any lesser task like forcing any human to do anything what the government wants can be easily accomplished by these methods, ie. resistance is futile.

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by kartD on Monday February 06, 2017 @10:40PM (#13586797)
oh haha, that's a good one!
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by tmalsburg2 on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @03:02AM (#13587876)
Didn't work for me because in joke world it's perfectly ok for dogs to talk even without training. The joke needs to be improved to manage expectations more effectively. The violation of expectations is what makes most jokes funny, so expectations need to be set up carefully.
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by gpvos on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @06:24AM (#13588669)
The default expectation is for dogs to not speak, also in "joke world".
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by imron on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @08:57AM (#13589314)
See for example:

A man walks into a bar with a small dog under his arm and sits down at the counter, placing the dog on the stool next to him.

The bartender says, "Sorry, pal. No dogs allowed."

The man says, "But this is a special dog -- he talks!"

"Yeah, right," says the bartender. "Now get out of here before I throw you out."

"No, wait," says the man. "I'll prove it." He turns to the dog and asks, "What do you normally find on top of a house?"

"Roof!" says the dog, wagging his tail.

"Listen, pal..." says the bartender. "Wait," says the man, "I'll ask another question." He turns to the dog again and asks, "What's the opposite of soft?"

"Ruff!" exclaims the dog.

"Quit wasting my time and get out of here," says the bartender.

"One more chance," pleads the man. Turning to the dog again, he asks, "Who was the greatest baseball player that ever lived?"

"Ruth!" barked the dog.

"Okay, that's it!" says the bartender, and physically throws both man and dog out the door and onto the street.

Turning to the man, the dogs shrugs and says, "Maybe I should have said Joe Dimaggio?"

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by wolfgke on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @09:37AM (#13589613)
The variant of this joke for mathematicians (source: https://jcdverha.home.xs4all.nl/scijokes/1_12.html):

I saw the following in "The Knot Book" by Colin Adams (a very readable introduction to Knot Theory). The joke is attributed to Joel Haas.

A woman walks into a bar accompanied by a dog and a cow. The bartender says, "Hey, no animals are allowed in here." The woman replies, "These are very special animals." "How so?" "They're knot theorists." The bartender raises his eyebrows and says, "I've met a number of knot theorists who I thought were animals, but never an animal that was a knot theorist." "Well, I'll prove it to you. Ask them them anything you like." So the bartender asks the dog, "Name a knot invariant." "Arf, arf" barks the dog. The bartender scowls and turns to the cow asking, "Name a topological invariant." The cow says, "Mu, mu." At this point the bartender turns to the woman, says, "Just what are you trying to pull" and throws them out of the bar.

Outside, the dog turns to the woman and asks, "Do you think I should have said the Jones polynomial?"

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by sandworm101 on Monday February 06, 2017 @11:42PM (#13587088)
That assumes that the speaking dog is a trick. This is hell. This is the afterlife. If dogs are there then they have souls. Id expect such beings to communicate as effectively as anyone else. My first read was that the dog was informing the devil of his mistreatment. We cannot assume that the devil was being completely clear as to how he would judge the excersise. The russian did not win.
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by pc86 on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @09:25AM (#13589526)
Did you ever have someone parse a joke so completely that stripped all comedy from it?
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by seanp2k2 on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @05:17AM (#13597174)
Yes
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by andrei_says_ on Monday February 06, 2017 @11:53PM (#13587141)
If you want to take it there, my reading is that the (ordinary, non-speaking) dog was in dog hell and the Russian was its particular type of hell.
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by jacobush on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @05:57AM (#13588553)
The story never gives away who won, if any of them. If Satan is taking the task in earnest, of weeding out the worst of them, of course the Russian lost and the German won. But, this being a very dark joke, Satan could have chosen to defer the worst of them to purgatory just for the heck of it.
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by andrei_says_ on Monday February 06, 2017 @10:18PM (#13586697)
It's a joke on scarcity of food etc.

No (availability of) shit to eat on most days > he doesn't have to eat shit. On other days shit is available but no shovels are available > he doesn't have to eat shit because there's no shovel to measure it/eat it with.

He knew this would happen because in Russia the food stores were more often than not empty and tools would be often "misplaced"/stolen.

Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by desdiv on Monday February 06, 2017 @10:21PM (#13586708)
He's asking about the training dog joke, not the American hell vs Russian hell joke.
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by andrei_says_ on Monday February 06, 2017 @10:57PM (#13586883)
Thank you.
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by nf05papsjfVbc on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @06:45AM (#13588741)
Er... could someone please explain this one to me. I don't understand the joke.
Re:CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf] by SiVal on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @07:33AM (#13588911)
The German got the dog to do tricks by rewarding it; the Russian got it to do a much harder trick (talking) by cruel punishment (starvation)