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Re:Amazon Restaurants by guelo on Thursday December 15, 2016 @04:19PM (#13188495)
This is obviously part of Amazon's effort to build out their own delivery network in order to muscle out fedex, ups, usps, etc. If their drivers aren't delivering packages they can be delivering food. That makes their whole delivery network stronger because it allows them to have more drivers employed driving around town all the time. It's the same reason Uber got into food delivery.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by simonbarker87 on Friday December 16, 2016 @03:38AM (#13191908)
The problem at the moment is Amazon logistics (at least here in the UK) is terrible. Prime went from a next day, 1-hour delivery window, fully tracked with DPD generally delivered by 1 pm to next day sometime between 8 and 8, no tracking and sometimes not delivered at all for no reason. If a parcel arrives at 8 pm the day after it's ordered it's not a next day service as far as I'm concerned, it might as well arrive 9 am the following day.

My new hobby seems to be not getting a prime delivery next day, calling Amazon, them apologising and giving me an extra month on my prime subscription for free - which is nice and everything but I'd rather get the service they promise.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by georgespencer on Friday December 16, 2016 @03:54AM (#13191979)
> If a parcel arrives at 8 pm the day after it's ordered it's not a next day service as far as I'm concerned

A parcel arriving the day after it's ordered is pretty much the definition of a next day service.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by simonbarker87 on Friday December 16, 2016 @04:44AM (#13192165)
Yeah, I get that I'm being impatient and using my own interpretation of next day but when all the decent couriers (UPS, TNT, DPD, UKMail, ParcelForce) get a package to you basically pre-early afternoon and Amazon's own delivery service makes that experience worse then it grates a little. I'd happily pay more on my prime subscription to go back to getting Amazon deliveries with DPD.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by jon-wood on Friday December 16, 2016 @04:02AM (#13192008)
I'd argue that's next evening service, next day implies it'll arrive in the daytime to me.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by georgespencer on Friday December 16, 2016 @04:35AM (#13192126)
This is because your interpretation of 'day' is of being a subcomponent of a 24 hour period (which probably also includes 'evening' and 'night').

The definition Amazon and every other company offering 'next day delivery' is that 'next day' means 'the next day'. As in the day after you buy the thing. It's a much more reasonable interpretation of the term because it's not open to colloquial misunderstandings (in your interpretation there could be day, evening, dusk, night, etc.). Is 5pm day? Is 6pm day?

Re:Amazon Restaurants by jacalata on Friday December 16, 2016 @06:39PM (#13197909)
If I'm ordering from an office that closes at 5pm, then no 6pm is not 'next day'.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by devmop on Friday December 16, 2016 @05:07AM (#13192228)
Amazon logistics at least do Sunday deliveries as well. Far too many stores have "next day delivery" for which ordering on Friday night means it doesn't arrive until Tuesday.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by dx034 on Friday December 16, 2016 @10:49AM (#13194043)
I'm actually happy with amazon logistics (London). They deliver every day (unlike basically everyone else), so I can order on Saturday and receive the item on Sunday.

They also always find a neighbor to accept the package. Royal mail always leaves a card which means I have to pick it up from a post office (which is only open when I work). The main reason I order nearly everything from Amazon is that most other sellers here use Royal Mail 2nd class, which for my address takes at least 4 days to arrive, before christmas often 2 weeks or more.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by zimpenfish on Friday December 16, 2016 @10:54AM (#13194075)
> Royal mail always leaves a card

Sometimes they leave a card without a tracking number (last month.) That was fun. But at least I knew it was for me.

Because there was the time with the card that had a tracking number but no name or flat number. And then the card that had three digits of the tracking number and no name or flat number.

Royal Mail are pretty awful at being a courier.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by teh_klev on Friday December 16, 2016 @07:18AM (#13192737)
The DPD service was amazing, even out in the rural hinterland where it can be trickier to provide accurate delivery windows.

Even when I lived in north Donegal (very rural) I could order parts from Overclockers UK (who use DPD) and guarantee delivery in two days and with a reasonably accurate drop off time window.

I'm less bothered about when a thing will arrive next day (and I don't mind evenings), but it's the not knowing when it'll arrive. Hell I'd settle for a four hour window rather than the current state of affairs with Amazon logistics in the UK.

What also ticks me off is how around this time of year, even in the last week in November, Amazon Prime's one day delivery magically becomes two days and yet is passed off as one day delivery.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by simonbarker87 on Friday December 16, 2016 @07:53AM (#13192895)
I'm a big fan of DPD, we use them for our business dispatch, overnight half of our customer support load disappeared as they are so good we just had no delivery issues anymore.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by tomw2005 on Friday December 16, 2016 @05:59AM (#13192401)
I'd also add that arriving after 5pm is basically useless at any business address. That and they don't seem to be able to deal with pressing the buzzer for our office if the receptionist isn't there.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by simonbarker87 on Friday December 16, 2016 @07:52AM (#13192889)
Agreed hence most of my parcels now land up behind my bins at home even if they are for work stuff (I run a just in time factory, Amazon Prime is useful). Funny story:

We moved into a brand new unit, first tenant, new postcode. We basically had to train the delivery companies so they could learn where we are, understandable and fine. Amazon presented a whole extra problem, though.

They use geofencing(?) for their deliveries, so the driver has to be within the bounds of the fenced area to make the delivery. The first driver must have set our fenced area up at the entrance to the trading estate, this meant that for a month a driver (never the same one twice) would show up, ask for my name, scan the package, look confused, apologise, drive 300 m back to the entrance of the estate, scan the parcel and then come back and then ask me to sign!!!

Re:Amazon Restaurants by petra on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:58PM (#13189898)
This is very different service from what fedex etc offers, because of the rapid delivery times. So maybe not direct competition on the 1-day / 2-day services.

But 1-hour for rush orders at low cost, or free if you order a meal, could be a good competitive advantage.

Especially if they could find a way for customers to order a lot of meals, like 3-4 times per week, or have a frequent order in some office in the same building you work.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by Finnucane on Thursday December 15, 2016 @04:42PM (#13188726)
Does that mean your food delivery depends on the package delivery schedule? "Sorry your pizza is cold but we had to deliver a TV first."

For myself, I usually prefer to just go and pick up myself; that's almost always the fastest option.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by dmurray on Thursday December 15, 2016 @04:50PM (#13188793)
I think Amazon will figure out that hot food needs to be delivered fast and will generally get prioritised over delivering a TV.

> For myself, I usually prefer to just go and pick up myself; that's almost always the fastest option.

Most people don't care about getting the absolute fastest option, or if they do, they will still compromise for convenience.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by Finnucane on Thursday December 15, 2016 @05:00PM (#13188878)
I guess I don't have that much faith in Amazon's ability to prioritize the customer over themselves (i.e., prioritize routing for the least amount of driving, regardless of what is being delivered).
Re:Amazon Restaurants by softawre on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:05PM (#13189526)
Really? To me, Amazon is one of the most customer-centric companies out there today.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by mulmen on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:22PM (#13189650)
That's literally the mission statement of the company.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by ziszis on Thursday December 15, 2016 @10:35PM (#13190858)
Overall mission statements have low correlation with behavior. Enron's motto was "Respect, Integrity, Communication and Excellence."
Re:Amazon Restaurants by AndrewUnmuted on Friday December 16, 2016 @02:56AM (#13191783)
No, it's different at Amazon. I worked for Amazon for five years and not a day went by without me overhearing "how does this help our customers?" I've never seen anything like Amazon's company culture since, it's truly dogmatically geared towards customer experience.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by kosei on Friday December 16, 2016 @12:28AM (#13191281)
Agreed. The company is much more likely to do what's best for the company at the expense of the delivery people or the restaurants, based on their track record.[1]

[1] https://www.thestreet.com/story/13248764/1/amazons-got-its-s...

Re:Amazon Restaurants by chrisseaton on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:19PM (#13189628)
But making sure the customer is satisfied, with hot food, is in Amazon's interest otherwise the customer won't order again or will ask for their money back.

In your mind if Amazon was optimising for their convenience alone they'd just pocket your money and not bother to ever deliver anything? Because that would the most convenient option for them.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by madgar on Thursday December 15, 2016 @11:17PM (#13191028)
> In your mind if Amazon was optimising for their convenience alone they'd just pocket your money and not bother to ever deliver anything?

That's called fraud and isn't generally considered a business model so much as a criminal enterprise

Re:Amazon Restaurants by coldtea on Friday December 16, 2016 @03:11AM (#13191820)
Delivering cold pizzas because you prioritized a product delivery is not a business model either, and yet we are discussing it seriously as if that's what Amazon will do.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by mulmen on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:18PM (#13189626)
Have you ever done business with Amazon? You do realize the food delivery isn't being done from a warehouse with pizzas on the shelf right?

Your assumption runs contrary to the core idea of Amazon. Customer experience is the absolute most important thing.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by paulcole on Thursday December 15, 2016 @08:37PM (#13190387)
>Amazon's ability to prioritize the customer over themselves

Can you give some examples of times when Amazon HASN'T put the desires of the vast majority of customers first?

Re:Amazon Restaurants by ziszis on Thursday December 15, 2016 @10:30PM (#13190838)
There are many examples. Here is an obvious one - when Amazon stopped selling Apple TVs to punish Apple. Hard to see how this is good for consumers.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/10/01/amazon_blocks...

Re:Amazon Restaurants by DavidAdams on Thursday December 15, 2016 @11:55PM (#13191177)
If it convinced any Amazon customers to buy a Roku instead of an AppleTV, then it was most definitely good for the customer [rimshot].
Re:Amazon Restaurants by paulcole on Friday December 16, 2016 @03:03PM (#13196273)
A counter-argument is that fewer options helps consumers actually choose something that's good enough rather than debating and hand-wringing over their choice. Costco is pretty good at this.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by byoung2 on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:19PM (#13189629)
For myself, I usually prefer to just go and pick up myself; that's almost always the fastest option.

For people with small kids, driving to pick up food can be a huge production, with car seats, diaper bags, strollers, etc. Curbside pickup helps, but delivery is so much easier, and sometimes just as fast.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by monk_e_boy on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:30PM (#13189706)
Yeah, click for a delivery, bath the kids, read to them, put them to bed. Crack open some beer and wait for the food.

When I cook it usually takes an hour or so. So getting food delivered frees up that hour.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by blowski on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:40PM (#13189790)
Agreed. There's also people who can't just "drive to the takeaway and back" because they don't have a car, are over the alcohol limit, etc.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by Dan_Nguyen on Thursday December 15, 2016 @05:40PM (#13189307)
In my house, we make good use of delivery for one major reason: sports.

Sometimes theres no dinner ready and in the hecticness of life, we forget to cook the night before so we get into an unfortunate situation of either going hungry until the game ends or cooking and miss the game.

Delivery solves this issue. Take out is definitely faster, but that usually means missing part of whatever game is on. My case obviously isn't universal but given the popularity of sports and how primetime games are only an hour or so after you get home from work, Id think there's a non negligible amount of people with similar situations.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by pbhjpbhj on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:07PM (#13189541)
Or get a DVR and pause the TV whilst you get some food.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by nitrogen on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:36PM (#13189751)
Some people might not like this since you'll be several minutes behind "live", but an advantage is you can skip any ads and commentary you don't like and catch up to live to see the final play at the same time as everyone else. I don't know if any PVRs still allow watching "live" at 1.25x or 1.5x speed, but if they do (like MythTV did/does) you can also condense a show into the time you have available and still watch the ending live.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by Finnucane on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:13PM (#13189585)
I care about food more than sports. Which is easy, since I don't care about sports.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by ncallaway on Thursday December 15, 2016 @08:07PM (#13190256)
But, interestingly, there are other people in the world that feel differently than you.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by coldtea on Friday December 16, 2016 @03:13AM (#13191831)
Increasingly less, considering millenial attitudes towards ESPN and the like compared to previous generations at their age.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by brianpan on Thursday December 15, 2016 @05:18PM (#13189077)
This is under the PrimeNow banner- everything is delivered under an hour.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by dx034 on Friday December 16, 2016 @10:46AM (#13194003)
Depends on the area. At least in London, PrimeNow delivers under one hour for only parts of the city, the rest is in under 2 hours.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by coldtea on Friday December 16, 2016 @03:09AM (#13191815)
>For myself, I usually prefer to just go and pick up myself; that's almost always the fastest option.

It's not about being the fastest, though, it's about being more convenient.

And even fastest depends on the area. Where I live (near a city centre) I can chose among 300 restaurants from a centralized meta-ordering service, and have their food delivered in 20-40 minutes.

It will take me 20 minutes to even decide to get up, find my keys, drive around, order and wait for the food.

Re:Amazon Restaurants by maruhan2 on Thursday December 15, 2016 @08:23PM (#13190328)
I think it'd be more like alerts being sent to all the drivers asking who is available for pickup.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by MichaelBurge on Thursday December 15, 2016 @04:45PM (#13188751)
They should probably prioritize the food, and fill off-time with package deliveries.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by pmoriarty on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:28PM (#13189693)
I've been really sick recently. So sick I couldn't go out of the house. Delivery was literally a life saver for me.
Re:Amazon Restaurants by dforrestwilson1 on Thursday December 15, 2016 @10:50PM (#13190919)
Has Uber had any success at food delivery? Will Amazon?
Re:Amazon Restaurants by jknoepfler on Thursday December 15, 2016 @11:50PM (#13191155)
Obviously is a very strong word.