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Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by simooooo on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @07:23PM (#12801666)
You're trying to convince yourself very hard, as you're all about AR. But nobody will wear those dumb glasses.
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by beambot on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @07:45PM (#12801782)
Famous last words. Reminds me of the old adage: "640k of memory is all that anybody with a computer would ever need."

I already know a lot of younger folks that are pumped about the Snapchat glasses...

(I'm not saying you're wrong... I just wouldn't make such steadfast predictions about the future either. But then again, I don't understand SnapChat and am not their target audience.)

Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by untog on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @08:08PM (#12801875)
You can trot out that 640k comment to sell any piece of technology, it doesn't make it true. I could have said the same about Google Glass.
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by beambot on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @08:55PM (#12802100)
Indeed you could. And sometimes you'd be right; other times you'd be dead wrong. If you could be right even half the time, you'd be rich as all get out. Which is why I would suggest: Don't make overreaching bold predictions (or become an investor).
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by flukus on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @10:30PM (#12802500)
I'm right way more than half the time. How do I get rich predicting $newTech will fail?
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by jmickey on Thursday October 27, 2016 @12:27AM (#12802909)
Short the stock :)
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by xeromal on Thursday October 27, 2016 @09:16AM (#12804819)
Go for it flukus! Easy peasy! If what you say is true, you can probably become a millionaire before the decade is out!
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by mdrzn on Thursday October 27, 2016 @10:16AM (#12805258)
and be ready to pay for as long as you're wrong.
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by erikpukinskis on Thursday October 27, 2016 @04:24AM (#12803595)
Being right about half of failures isn't worth anything. You can't short SnapChat Spectacles.

You need to be right about half of successes, which is much harder for a raging pessimist like OP.

Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by drawnwren on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @10:44PM (#12802564)
I agree with both of you. The glasses are silly, don't seem that technically complex, and I think they are poised to be a huge hit with Snapchat's base audience. Google Glass was a technically well made device that forgot product, I think those stupid glasses hit their product-market fit quite well. The recording indicator and their 'retro' style are both what I consider to be key components in this assessment.
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by b2600 on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @10:20PM (#12802451)
No, young people will not stand in line to buy or wear those glasses. Snap chat is very popular. However, the current user base will outgrow it and those younger will have something else. Better get that 4B while they can. It doesn't have the roots or staying power of a Facebook or Twitter (I know Twitter isn't making money).
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by dir on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @08:08PM (#12801880)
The problem with the Snapchat glasses is their re usability and if it catches on.

If your friends aren't using them and you're the only one with a pair you'd be less inclined to wear them. Everyone thought Google Glass was going to be the future but those glasses made you look like a total douche. Hopefully the Spectacles wont be branded as such.

Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by usrusr on Thursday October 27, 2016 @07:44AM (#12804296)
Those glasses are designed to be the party Polaroid of a generation. The person holding the camera gets the attention of everybody keen on presenting themselves, the bet is that putting the camera on your face intensifies this experience. Expect these things to get passed around a bit when in use, so there will quite some local virality within groups. This is good for immediate sales, but long term usage could suffer hard if market saturation coincides with the novelty wearing off. If there is one Polaroid at a given party, it is the center of attention, if there are three of them, they are all just annoying. The me-too buyers well get quite the opposite result compared to the early adopters.

If Snapchat sets up the glasses business as an additional revenue stream, it could well become a reasonable but limited success, if they set it up "strategically", maybe even selling at loss, I predict terrible failure.

Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by Canada on Thursday October 27, 2016 @01:02AM (#12803037)
Not sure network effects are necessary there. It's fine if one person makes videos with glasses as long as friends enjoy watching them.

If the glasses are promoted as something you only wear when you want to record video and that you otherwise put away it might take off.

Nobody minds when you pull out a cell phone and record video because it's obvious you're filming. I think it was the omnipresent threat of being secretly recorded that made Glass creepy.

Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by beambot on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @08:58PM (#12802110)
I would posit: your perception of "total douche-ness" (your words, not mine) are largely driven by marketing and/or culture.

Glass definitely failed in the marketing, branding, and roll-out departments (among others) -- but they're no more or less doofy (to me) than many other perfectly-accepted fashions: baggy pants, beats headphones, crocs, etc.

Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by b2600 on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @11:14PM (#12802668)
>(to me)

That is a fairly small focus group.

Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by dilap on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @08:09PM (#12801886)
Lots of people are going to wear those glasses. Is there some site where you can bet small amounts of $ with strangers on the internet? :)
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by billskills on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @08:14PM (#12801908)
You mean like a prediction market? Yes, hundreds.
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by dilap on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @08:27PM (#12801980)
Nah, I mean like I want to wager with simooooo. I'm 25% serious.
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by toomuchtodo on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @09:50PM (#12802325)
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by alexc05 on Thursday October 27, 2016 @08:09AM (#12804386)
Depending on the strike price, can't you just buy or short a few shares?

I mean that's a bet with a payoff & loss.

Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by jdavis703 on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @11:55PM (#12802796)
And nobody would carry Palm Pilot PDAs. Well they didn't wind up carrying them from Palm, but Apple and Samsung sure have something awfully close. Snap may or may not be the AR disruptor, but AR will be the new smartphone. Whoever owns it will be the new Apple.
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by 205guy on Thursday October 27, 2016 @02:24AM (#12803245)
But before Palm Pilots, there was the Newton so loved by techies, just like Glass. So snap may end up the palm pilot or one of the dozen PDA knockoffs that were around (I seem to remember some Microsoft ones too). It seems like concepts float around in several iterations, or as many as it takes, until someone hits the sweet spot.

I'm not really knowledgeable about the "wearable" market, but to me it doesn't seem as ubiquitous as the smart phone.

Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by drusepth on Thursday October 27, 2016 @08:07AM (#12804380)
Those "dumb glasses" are all I hear high school kids talking about when I volunteer. If they hit a cheap enough price point with them, kids are going to wear them everywhere. There'll be plenty of backlash as schools/etc ban them, but they're targeting a market that's already crazy about them.
Re:Snapchat Seeks to Raise as Much as $4B in IPO by elorant on Thursday October 27, 2016 @06:26AM (#12803975)
If they license the technology to premium brands, say Prada, Calvin Klein etc. everyone will buy them. Especially their target group which is primarily youngsters.