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Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by sna1l on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @09:01PM (#11531625)
I wasn't alive in the 80s, but it blows my mind that South Korea was a military dictatorship. I know this is common news to most people outside the West, but I think it is good that in this day of fast communication and very few places to hide, that tough information like this comes out, so we can deal with it and learn from our horrible mistakes. Not all saying I'm glad this happen, but at the very least, I hope we can all learn something from it.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by contingencies on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @09:39PM (#11531745)
it blows my mind that South Korea was a military dictatorship

Why? China, Japan, Vietnam, and Taiwan all derive their political cultures primarily from Confucianism, a strongly hierarchical system that modern commentators would probably, if it could be seen undoctored today, describe as a dictatorship. North Korea, a personality cult with similar structure, persists.

At the same time, in the 1980s, nearby Taiwan was also a dictatorship of the Nationalist Chinese army and was also supported if not set up by the US. They stopped off in Burma to grow heroin and prop up a military dictatorship there along the way. In the last few years, the US has basically let the dictators out of prosecution to counter growing regional Chinese influence which was formerly set to dominate the country. Singapore is widely accused of setting up its stock market explicitly to launder the drug revenues, and still has - and indeed probably only exists today - because of major US support.

Vietnam is the only really strong story of the lot, repulsing an attack from China after kicking out the French and Americans and re-asserting its independence, then removing another dictatorship (Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge) from Cambodia in 1978.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by walrus01 on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @09:45PM (#11531769)
Don't forget US support for the Greek military junta:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_military_junta_of_1967%E...

And the US military LOVED Saddam Hussein.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq...

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by harperlee on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @06:03AM (#11533288)
US also loved Franco in Spain, and a bunch of undemocratic latin-american governments.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by tmp23423 on Thursday April 21, 2016 @03:33AM (#11540246)
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by walrus01 on Sunday April 24, 2016 @06:29PM (#11561660)
Not even recent, the US supported Mubarak since he took power after the Sadat assassination.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by nickpsecurity on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:29PM (#11531886)
Cambodia had help from U.S. on Khmer Rouge, too. Marcinko, SEAL 6 founder, covers his time training them to fight Khmer Rouge in his book Rogue Warrior. Far as Vietnam, I agree that their resolve was impressive. I just don't recall it going the way you described with instead them splitting up with one side backing communist imperialists and the other capitalist imperialists. They fell for the games plenty enough but resisted a lot, too.

The one with most potential is probably Singapore given what they've accomplished in a short time. They just need a cultural shift to get them out of this conformist, nationalist, factory-worker mentality. They could become a hub of not only trustworthy business in Asia but innovation or quality-focused business too. The reactionaries are doing everything they can to prevent that, though, as it will threaten their power.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by ooooo00000 on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @12:52AM (#11532338)
The US provided training, enormous air power, and weapons including land mines to the Lon Nol government.

It may be in the realm of conspiracy theory still, but some would contend that the CIA installed the Lon Nol government and helped oust Norodom Sihanouk as king. Sihanouk himself wrote a book called "My War with the CIA" and as I understand it (haven't read it) his position is that this happened in retaliation for Cambodia remaining neutral in the Vietnam war.

I'm not sure to what extent this is true, or whether or not Sihanouk quietly supported the VC, but Cambodia was absolutely devastated by US bombing and it can only be described as evil. As a personal anecdote, I recently met some Cambodian men who subsisted as children by salvaging unexploded American bombs.

Between 1965 and 1973, the U.S. dropped 2.7 million tons of explosives -- more than the Allies dropped in the entirety of World War II -- on Cambodia, whose population was then smaller than New York City's. Estimates of the number of people killed begin in the low hundreds of thousands and range up from there, but the truth is that no one has any idea.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/02/wha...

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by refurb on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:13AM (#11532393)
You're forgetting to add why the US bombed Cambodia. The North Vietnamese were using the border areas with Vietnam as a refuge and a supply route for war materials.

Note that the US didn't bomb Cambodia until quite late in the war. That probably helped the North Vietnamese more than anything.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by ooooo00000 on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:24AM (#11532423)
The bombing happened all over the country. A few weeks ago I was in Kompung Thom (right in the middle of Cambodia) and talked to quite a few people about this. The members of these communities were farmers, not combatants or VC sympathizers, and they didn't even have much awareness of why they were being bombed.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by ooooo00000 on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @02:18AM (#11532597)
I also have to add that there is no reasonable "why" to excuse bombing largely civilian areas. Undoubtably the VC were crossing over the border -- the Cambodian side of the Vietnam-Cambodia border is ethnically and linguistically a mixture of Khmer and Vietnamese, and that border has been fluid up until recent history -- but still most people there would have been civilians.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by evgen on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @05:14AM (#11533149)
When military convoys are running through town you no longer live in a "civilian area".
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by ooooo00000 on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @05:32AM (#11533193)
I'll stick with "an area with many civilians" as my definition of a civilian area. These people weren't wealthy, and it's where they happened to own land and build houses. It becomes a choice between being homeless and impoverished, or staying where you are and taking the risk of being bombed.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by Amezarak on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @07:55AM (#11533694)
If you commit to the idea "I will not bomb civilians", then you offer an enormous advantage to your adversary, who will therefore proceed to make sure civilians are well-distributed in any area of military operation.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by contingencies on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:29PM (#11532065)
Cambodia had help from U.S. on Khmer Rouge, too.

Never heard of this but it no doubt pales in comparison to Vietnam's "remove them with a land army" commitment.

I just don't recall it going the way you described with instead them splitting up with one side backing communist imperialists and the other capitalist imperialists. They fell for the games plenty enough but resisted a lot, too.

Any way you look at it Ho Chi Minh was brilliant military tactician and strategist who drew from both ancient Chinese and modern western military philosophy to lead his people to independence. I'd argue that the use of socialism was probably not as significant (versus other options of wartime economies) as commonly thought. It was useful, however, to get diplomatic support and military hardware from allies such as Russia and China. I don't think it greatly shaped Vietnam, which is now very capitalist, just like China and Singapore, two other nominally 'communist' party-led modern Asian nations.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by nickpsecurity on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:36PM (#11532093)
Not as strong on the history part to know about remove them with land army. However, I agree Ho Chi Minh was brilliant at strategy. Far as our opponents go, I particularly was impressed with whoever realized that Americans would likely pull out if they saw enough messed up stuff on TV. That's one of reasons they started doing stuff near places like churches. It was a brutal strategy but it worked quite to their advantage. They proved America didn't have the guts to keep up a war against Vietnamese. Many couldn't even watch one.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by refurb on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:17AM (#11532401)
A big part of why North Vietnam succeed in winning the war was the ability to send a steady supply of solider into the grinder. Somewhere between 500K and 1M North Vietnamese soldiers died during the war. And that's not even including the war with the French prior.

Not unlike WW2 for the Soviets.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by vacri on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @03:45AM (#11532863)
Ho Chi Minh kicking out the French significantly accelerated the end of the Colonial Era - all of a sudden, the impossible was proven possible: small impoverished nations could throw out their European overlords. The man is a much under-recognised talent.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by ooooo00000 on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:18AM (#11532406)
> Cambodia had help from U.S. on Khmer Rouge, too.

>> Never heard of this

It's true right up until the Khmer Rouge marched into Phnom Penh. Then US diplomats and officials were evacuated in helicopters, while the city was left for slaughter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Pull

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by walrus01 on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @02:08PM (#11536420)
Those who have not yet seen it should watch The Killing Fields.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by ekianjo on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @12:39AM (#11532296)
> China, Japan, Vietnam, and Taiwan

You forgot Thailand. With the cult of the president and full cooperation of the army, it's pretty much a dictatorship as well.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by coupdejarnac on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @12:42AM (#11532309)
...Cult of the King. Living in Thailand was a real eye-opener for me. Having to stand up for the King before movies, to stop in public places to honor the King when the loudspeaker played, and to watch what I said with regards to the King was a very jarring experience.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by chengiz on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @08:09AM (#11533756)
Of all the countries I have visited as a tourist, I felt Thailand was the most overrated because of all this. It's surreal to see busy people in train stations at rush hour stop for the anthem, which as I saw later in the cinema is basically a dystopian hail to the king deal (I was continually reminded of Borat's anthem, especially the last line). Add to that the people prostrating themselves at monks' feet on busy streets, the schoolboys with all identical shortcropped hair, and then the old white men with young girls draped around them. Everything just had an evil vibe and I couldnt wait to leave (and they even made me pay an exit fee at the airport!).
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by Cyph0n on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @02:58AM (#11532714)
Holy damn and I thought it was bad in the Gulf!
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by mc32 on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:21AM (#11532415)
Ahum, I think you forgot the Philippine islands... Marischal Ferdinand Marcos doesn't seem to have been the most democratic guy in the neighborhood.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by tamana on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:41AM (#11532466)
Why is that Confucianism, and not plain old military coup like the rest of the world?
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by refurb on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:05PM (#11531819)
Vietnam is the only really strong story of the lot

You say that as if Vietnam did it on their own. They were as supported by China and Russia as Taiwan was by the US.

And now that China is encroaching on Vietnam's sovereignty, who do they cozy up to? The US.

It's all politics.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by rangibaby on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:41PM (#11532112)
The Soviet and Chinese relationship was an interesting one. Mao disagreed with Khrushchev's liberal (compared to Stalin) policies, and China and the USSR became enemies. Vietnam (and Mongolia) were close Soviet allies to protect themselves from Chinese domination.

China allowed Soviet military aid passage through the country, but once the threat of having an American client cf. South Korea was waning (early 70s) repaired relations with the US and invaded Vietnam (1978).

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by contingencies on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:57PM (#11531973)
It's all politics.

Of course. Actually they have had many invasions and multiple occupations from China over the course of the last 10-20 centuries. They are, long-term historically speaking, essentially a China breakaway, but similarly southward-expansionist state.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by hackuser on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:10AM (#11532381)
> Actually they have had many invasions and multiple occupations from China over the course of the last 10-20 centuries.

Right now there is conflict with China over their Vietnam's territorial waters and the South China Sea. China invaded Vietnam via land as recently as 1979.

> They are, long-term historically speaking, essentially a China breakaway

Hmmm ... China hasn't controlled Vietnam in a very long time, AFAIK; maybe never. Vietnam has a different culture and language.

> similarly southward-expansionist state

South of Vietnam is ocean; what does this comment mean?

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by contingencies on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @07:06PM (#11538388)
Hmmm ... China hasn't controlled Vietnam in a very long time, AFAIK; maybe never.

China has occupied Vietnam many times. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Vietnam

Vietnam has a different culture and language.

The language is very much a dialect of ancient southern Chinese. In fact, it is used by linguists to reconstruct (along with other languages) ancient Chinese pronunciation. Culturally, Vietnam has Chinese holidays like Chinese New Year, plus Chinese characters (though they are forgetting how to read them after the installation of Romanized script), Confucianism, Taoism, etc.

South of Vietnam is ocean; what does this comment mean?

Sinified Vietnam (ie. the first beginnings of modern Vietnam proper) expanded southward overrunning completely culturally distinct countries such as Champa, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champa

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by walrus01 on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @09:18PM (#11531678)
not only was it a military dictatorship, it was a military dictatorship with its domestic, foreign and signals intelligence agencies set up by the CIA and NSA. Part of the historical and ongoing extensive cooperation between the US DoD and the South Korean armed forces.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Intelligence_Service_...

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by malloryerik on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:17PM (#11532036)
There's another way to see this.

A question asked in chat just today by a German journalist friend who specialises in Asia and esp the Koreas:

"And im seriously wondering: if there were no americans holding back the sk tyrants of that time, would sk be any better than nk in terms of human rights?"

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by walrus01 on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:44PM (#11532124)
Well, it'd probably be a capitalist randian chaebol clusterfuck of industry and manufacturing, rather than juche.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by sho_hn on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @02:27AM (#11532628)
HN chat? Sounds like an interesting person... (as a German living in Seoul)
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by malloryerik on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @02:33AM (#11532643)
Kakao...
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by sho_hn on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @03:13AM (#11532769)
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by nerfhammer on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:55PM (#11532157)
The South Korean military was fully under the command of the US military until 1994.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by malloryerik on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @12:34PM (#11535616)
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by drauh on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @09:20PM (#11531686)
Yes, a good reminder of why the hippie liberals refer to Imperialist America.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by contingencies on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @09:33PM (#11531724)
You don't have to be a hippie liberal to see horrible truths in the history of post-WWII American foreign policy.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by cb18 on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:29PM (#11531885)
I don't think you need to be a 'hippie liberal,' nor is it necessary to make value judgements of the nation's actions.

You can simply look around the world and see that the US has hundreds of military bases in other ostensibly sovereign countries.

You can just look at the basic facts and see that there is more than a touch of imperialism at play here.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by jonnybgood on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:52PM (#11532150)
Concerning military bases:

1. The US pays for those bases to be there.

2. Host countries want those bases to be there for defensive and economic purposes.

If we look at the basic facts we see this is clearly not imperialism.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by vacri on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @04:01AM (#11532910)
> 2. Host countries want those bases to be there for defensive and economic purposes.

Really? Even the closest one to the US at Guantanamo Bay, where Cuba keeps demanding that the US gets off their soil?

The US's foreign base policies are a little more complex than you're suggesting.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by cb18 on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:06AM (#11532368)
The policy of forcefully extending a nation's authority by territorial gain or by the establishment of economic and political dominance over other nations. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/imperialism

The second half of that is pretty spot on, and if I'm not mistaken some of the overseas bases did originate from the use of force.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism

Currently, the Pax Americana is based on the military preponderance beyond challenge by any combination of powers and projection of power throughout the world's commons—neutral sea, air and space. This projection is coordinated by the Unified Command Plan which divides the world on regional branches controlled by a single command. Integrated with it are global network of military alliances (the Rio Pact, NATO, ANZUS and bilateral alliances with Japan and several other states) coordinated by Washington in a hub-and-spokes system and world-wide network of several hundreds of military bases and installations. Former Security Advisor, Zbignew Brzezinski, drew an expressive summary of the military foundation of Pax Americana shortly after the unipolar moment:

In contrast [to the earlier empires], the scope and pervasiveness of American global power today are unique. Not only does the United States control all the world's oceans, its military legions are firmly perched on the western and eastern extremities of Eurasia... American vassals and tributaries, some yearning to be embraced by even more formal ties to Washington, dot the entire Eurasian continent... American global supremacy is...buttered by an elaborate system of alliances and coalitions that literally span the globe.

Besides the military foundation, there are significant non-military international institutions backed by American financing and diplomacy (like the United Nations and WTO). The United States invested heavily in programs such as the Marshall Plan and in the reconstruction of Japan, economically cementing defense ties that owed increasingly to the establishment of the Iron Curtain/Eastern Bloc and the widening of the Cold War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana#Contemporary_pow...

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by duncan_bayne on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:40PM (#11531914)
Remember though that if not for US action, there would be no South Korea; there would just be a larger and more terrible North Korea, and millions more people would live in suffering and bondage.

Personally, I don't think the US should have intervened in Korea, for all the very good reasons that your founders cautioned against foreign intervention and entanglements.

But the intervention saved millions from enslavement. It was a net benefit to everyone in South Korea, then and now.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by a_bonobo on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:57PM (#11531969)
It wasn't the US alone - it was a UN-mission under the lead of the US, more than twice the South Korean soldiers fought than US soldiers, and don't forget all the other coalition forces who also fought: the British soldiers, the Turkish, the Australians etc.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by hasenj on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:50PM (#11531938)
If we go back even further, Korea as a whole was under Japanese rule. If the US negotiated with Japan instead of going all out, Korea wouldn't have to be split apart to begin with.

Also, if there was no South Korea, then who knows, maybe the "larger" North Korea would just be like China today; kind of terrible but not so terrible.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by vacri on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @04:03AM (#11532919)
Without the US-backed South Korea, China would not be so interested in backing [North] Korea, and indeed would see them as a realistic threat rather than a client/buffer state.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by ben_jones on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @09:39PM (#11531744)
And also the pre-WWII American foreign policy, including but not limited to the Philippines.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by CamperBob2 on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:12PM (#11532021)
Never mind that the Soviet government had entire departments dedicated to developing, spreading, and generally promoting that sort of worldview.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by BurningFrog on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:22PM (#11531866)
I'm not sure how good an argument/excuse this is, but do remember that the country was technically at war with North Korea all this time, and under very real military threat.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by hasenj on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:46PM (#11531928)
I think that's never a good excuse.

Arab states use Israel's existence as justification to military dictatorship. Saddam also used the threats from Iran (which were very real).

Meanwhile, Israel managed to develop into an industrial democracy despite being surrounded by enemies from all directions.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by vkou on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:58PM (#11531978)
Israel treats it's Palestinian population as if it were a military dictatorship.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by tamana on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:43AM (#11532473)
Yes, that is occupied enemy territory, not the nation they purportedly serve.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by makomk on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @05:54AM (#11533259)
Treating occupied enemy territory the way that Israel has treated Palestine violates international law in so many ways it's frankly ridiculous. They really are acting like a military dictatorship.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by yarou on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:02PM (#11531987)
Was South Africa really a democracy under apartheid? Or the US under Jim Crow? Or Turkey currently?

I don't think you can be considered a democracy if you are at war with half of the people within your borders.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by hasenj on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:10PM (#11532013)
Democracies are always local.

Was the US a liberal democracy during WWII when it cluster bombed Germany and Japan?

Think about the context here: how South Korea in the 80s was treating its own people.

Israel is a democracy within its local population despite being surrounded by enemies.

Therefore, having an enemy at the border is not a good excuse for a military dictatorship.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by yongjik on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:14AM (#11532396)
I haven't been to Gaza, but I grew up in South Korea in the 80s. If half of what I see in the news is true, how Israel treats people of Gaza is much worse than how South Korea treated people of Seoul in 80s.

Put another way, I'm sure even Pyongyang has some happy citizens. Even dictators usually let some local population live happily. The trick is being part of the right local population.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by hasenj on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @08:13AM (#11533773)
Gaza is practically enemy territory for Israel ..
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by yarou on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:13PM (#11532023)
Containment as a foreign policy led to extremely bad outcomes globally, as did colonialism. It wasn't just SK treating it's citizens poorly, it was the vast majority of second and third world countries that had a history of colonial subjugation. Looked through the lens of colonialism, it makes perfect sense.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by joesmo on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:35PM (#11532089)
Of course not.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by asdfologist on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @09:17PM (#11531674)
It came out more than 30 years too late. Sadly, I doubt any senior leader responsible will face any repercussions. Either the public will forget or they'll imprison one minor scapegoat and move on.