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Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by contingencies on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:29PM (#11532065)
Cambodia had help from U.S. on Khmer Rouge, too.

Never heard of this but it no doubt pales in comparison to Vietnam's "remove them with a land army" commitment.

I just don't recall it going the way you described with instead them splitting up with one side backing communist imperialists and the other capitalist imperialists. They fell for the games plenty enough but resisted a lot, too.

Any way you look at it Ho Chi Minh was brilliant military tactician and strategist who drew from both ancient Chinese and modern western military philosophy to lead his people to independence. I'd argue that the use of socialism was probably not as significant (versus other options of wartime economies) as commonly thought. It was useful, however, to get diplomatic support and military hardware from allies such as Russia and China. I don't think it greatly shaped Vietnam, which is now very capitalist, just like China and Singapore, two other nominally 'communist' party-led modern Asian nations.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by nickpsecurity on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:36PM (#11532093)
Not as strong on the history part to know about remove them with land army. However, I agree Ho Chi Minh was brilliant at strategy. Far as our opponents go, I particularly was impressed with whoever realized that Americans would likely pull out if they saw enough messed up stuff on TV. That's one of reasons they started doing stuff near places like churches. It was a brutal strategy but it worked quite to their advantage. They proved America didn't have the guts to keep up a war against Vietnamese. Many couldn't even watch one.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by refurb on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:17AM (#11532401)
A big part of why North Vietnam succeed in winning the war was the ability to send a steady supply of solider into the grinder. Somewhere between 500K and 1M North Vietnamese soldiers died during the war. And that's not even including the war with the French prior.

Not unlike WW2 for the Soviets.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by vacri on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @03:45AM (#11532863)
Ho Chi Minh kicking out the French significantly accelerated the end of the Colonial Era - all of a sudden, the impossible was proven possible: small impoverished nations could throw out their European overlords. The man is a much under-recognised talent.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by ooooo00000 on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:18AM (#11532406)
> Cambodia had help from U.S. on Khmer Rouge, too.

>> Never heard of this

It's true right up until the Khmer Rouge marched into Phnom Penh. Then US diplomats and officials were evacuated in helicopters, while the city was left for slaughter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Pull

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by walrus01 on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @02:08PM (#11536420)
Those who have not yet seen it should watch The Killing Fields.