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Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by BurningFrog on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:22PM (#11531866)
I'm not sure how good an argument/excuse this is, but do remember that the country was technically at war with North Korea all this time, and under very real military threat.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by hasenj on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:46PM (#11531928)
I think that's never a good excuse.

Arab states use Israel's existence as justification to military dictatorship. Saddam also used the threats from Iran (which were very real).

Meanwhile, Israel managed to develop into an industrial democracy despite being surrounded by enemies from all directions.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by vkou on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @10:58PM (#11531978)
Israel treats it's Palestinian population as if it were a military dictatorship.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by tamana on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:43AM (#11532473)
Yes, that is occupied enemy territory, not the nation they purportedly serve.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by makomk on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @05:54AM (#11533259)
Treating occupied enemy territory the way that Israel has treated Palestine violates international law in so many ways it's frankly ridiculous. They really are acting like a military dictatorship.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by yarou on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:02PM (#11531987)
Was South Africa really a democracy under apartheid? Or the US under Jim Crow? Or Turkey currently?

I don't think you can be considered a democracy if you are at war with half of the people within your borders.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by hasenj on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:10PM (#11532013)
Democracies are always local.

Was the US a liberal democracy during WWII when it cluster bombed Germany and Japan?

Think about the context here: how South Korea in the 80s was treating its own people.

Israel is a democracy within its local population despite being surrounded by enemies.

Therefore, having an enemy at the border is not a good excuse for a military dictatorship.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by yongjik on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @01:14AM (#11532396)
I haven't been to Gaza, but I grew up in South Korea in the 80s. If half of what I see in the news is true, how Israel treats people of Gaza is much worse than how South Korea treated people of Seoul in 80s.

Put another way, I'm sure even Pyongyang has some happy citizens. Even dictators usually let some local population live happily. The trick is being part of the right local population.

Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by hasenj on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @08:13AM (#11533773)
Gaza is practically enemy territory for Israel ..
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by yarou on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:13PM (#11532023)
Containment as a foreign policy led to extremely bad outcomes globally, as did colonialism. It wasn't just SK treating it's citizens poorly, it was the vast majority of second and third world countries that had a history of colonial subjugation. Looked through the lens of colonialism, it makes perfect sense.
Re:AP: South Korea covered up mass abuse, killings of 'vagra... by joesmo on Tuesday April 19, 2016 @11:35PM (#11532089)
Of course not.