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Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by kazinator on Friday October 02, 2015 @09:42AM (#10318432)
Note that Adblock isn't Adblock Plus:

AdBlock is not to be confused with Adblock Plus. The creator of AdBlock claims to have been inspired by the Adblock Plus extension for Firefox, which is itself based on another extension called Adblock. But otherwise AdBlock is unrelated to the other efforts.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdBlock]

No alarm here for ABP users. (Like me).

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by mfoy_ on Friday October 02, 2015 @10:04AM (#10318576)
Okay this is why we have registered trademarks. You're telling me that Adblock, Adblock Plus, and AdBlock are three separate things? What the hell? I just assumed they were all the same thing until now.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by MichaelApproved on Friday October 02, 2015 @11:04AM (#10318984)
I kept rereading OP's comment and looking for the difference between Adblock and AdBlock. It wasn't until your comment that I noticed the capital B in Block.

Trademarks FTW. Great example of confusion in the marketplace.

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by 0942v8653 on Friday October 02, 2015 @12:20PM (#10319458)
I read through nearly the entire thread thinking that the Adblock mentioned had a capital B.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by mthoms on Friday October 02, 2015 @12:40PM (#10319602)
Coming soon: uAdblock Origin Plus+.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by alex_doom on Friday October 02, 2015 @02:55PM (#10320503)
Upgrade to PRO Version for $29.99 a year.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by Intermernet on Saturday October 03, 2015 @06:50AM (#10323403)
Is that the one without ads?
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by cpeterso on Friday October 02, 2015 @12:51PM (#10319664)
Don't forget about Adblock Edge, AdBlock Lite, μ Adblock, and Ad Blockerr:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=adblock

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by smacktoward on Friday October 02, 2015 @02:36PM (#10320390)
Cripes, this is starting to sound like the old phone books. Coming soon: AAAAAAA+ AdBlock?
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by caskance on Friday October 02, 2015 @01:51PM (#10320102)
Adblock would not be a trademarkable name anyway. It's a generic term that describes what the product is.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by runako on Friday October 02, 2015 @02:07PM (#10320201)
Don't tell Microsoft! (Windows, Word, Surface, etc.) Or Apple! (Pages, Numbers, etc.)
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by caskance on Friday October 02, 2015 @02:15PM (#10320253)
You might have a point if those products had been called "Operating System", "Text Editor" and "Portable Computer With Touchscreen and Keyboard".
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by runako on Friday October 02, 2015 @02:48PM (#10320456)
On a technicality (which is what trademark attorneys deal in), your point falls to the same fallacy. The product Adblock is an "Advertisement blocking engine" or the like. "Adblock" is a made-up word and therefore likely eligible for trademark. (Or it was before the namespace got polluted with all the variants.)
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by Dylan16807 on Saturday October 03, 2015 @01:00AM (#10322677)
"made up word" is overly generous. It's the word "ad" followed by the word "block". "ad block" is a valid description of what it does, equivalent to "advertisement blocking". You only put the word "engine" in there to fake there being a difference. Microsoft wouldn't be able to get a trademark on "Operatingsystem".
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by kazinator on Friday October 02, 2015 @02:47PM (#10320451)
"Microsoft Word" is the trademark, not "Word".

Or is it? If Microsoft has trademarked just "Word", it is very strange that they don't enforce it against these folks:

http://www.abiword.org/

especially in the light of how, some years ago, their lawyers swooped down like hawks on a Canadian named Mike Rowe who put up a "Mike Rowe Soft" consulting business and web site.

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by runako on Friday October 02, 2015 @02:51PM (#10320476)
"AbiWord" is a single word, which may be a factor. They might have trouble if it were "Abi Word" or "Word by Abi" or even "Word". It's implausible that another entity could market a competitor of Word (or Windows) by naming it e.g. "Apple Word" or "Apple Windows". I'm going to bet that all the common permutations are trademarked by MSFT.

Also, I'm guessing Abi's limited reach is a factor. If Abi was suddenly taking a meaningful share of usage, they would probably get an angry lawyer letter.

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by Mahn on Friday October 02, 2015 @10:26AM (#10318734)
I kind of figured that Adblock Pro was a fork, but this is ridiculous.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by saurik on Friday October 02, 2015 @12:34PM (#10319553)
You do not need to have a trademark registered to have trademark rights: you only need to be able to show that people associate the name with your brand.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by huntermeyer on Friday October 02, 2015 @10:05AM (#10318589)
I had not idea either until now. Always learning something new on HN.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by njharman on Friday October 02, 2015 @01:41PM (#10320034)
TM are not automatic (unlike copyright at least in USA since 1978 Copyright Act) and they are fairly expensive and require vigilance (more $$$) to keep valid.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by newscracker on Friday October 02, 2015 @09:50AM (#10318492)
ABP also introduced an Acceptable Ads option a few years ago that triggered the creation of a fork called AdBlock Edge without that option. Adblock Edge was recently discontinued in favor of uBlock Origin [1], which has a much smaller memory footprint and is faster.

[1]: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by dvh on Friday October 02, 2015 @10:03AM (#10318567)
uBlock origin is bigger (js wise) than both AdBlock and AdBlock plus and uBlock, comparison:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/msT3z9naIEkfKFjrj2G3G67moS...

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by gorhill on Friday October 02, 2015 @10:23AM (#10318717)
Because uBlock Origin ships with the default filter lists, so that it can work immediately out of the box without having to remotely fetch these filter lists at launch time (updated versions of these lists will be automatically fetched some time after launch).

It's not uncommon that the remote servers hosting the lists fail to respond, which would cause the extension to "malfunction" if this happened after first install -- these lists are key for the proper functioning of the extension (at least in its default out-of-the-box settings). I want the extension to work properly immediately after 1st install.

The size of uBlock Origin as downloaded from AMO or Chrome store is ~1.5 MB (because it's compressed). The compressed package would be ~650 kB without the 3rd-party lists (the content of these lists are not javascript code).

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by lorenzhs on Friday October 02, 2015 @10:17AM (#10318673)
Javascript size is a weird metric, and the plot is useless without context. The plot does not even state for which browser the metric was collected (or is it the repository size? That would be completely useless, as uBlock's and uBlock origin's repositories include versions for different browsers.) Because when I add the sum of all .js files in uBlock's repository, I get 1.08MB. Heck, the whole src and platform directories combined are 2.8MB, and that includes both the Chrome and the Firefox version! Can you point to a source for that plot?
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by dvh on Monday October 05, 2015 @04:06AM (#10330443)
> The plot does not even state for which browser the metric was collected

It's there in the title of the plot. Did you even looked at the plot?

> Can you point to a source for that plot?

I did the plot few days ago, I simply installed all those extensions and calculated JS size on disk.

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by dvh on Monday October 05, 2015 @04:03AM (#10330433)
Why my comment has -4 points? I simply stated the truth, everybody can measure size of JS of these extensions. I did not count default filter list to size of JS, I only counted actual JS code and uBlock origin has simple more JS code than both Adblock and Adblock plus.

If I lied I would understand the downvotes but I didn't lie. I was also surprised that uBlock origin is bigger than adblock, especially when it's name sounds like something much much simpler and smaller but the fact is that size wise they are practically the same.

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by gorhill on Thursday October 08, 2015 @12:07PM (#10353654)
Possibly because in reality the resources consumed while at rest (disk storage) are magnitude less important than the resources consumed while running (memory/CPU cycles).
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by rudolf0 on Friday October 02, 2015 @01:36PM (#10319987)
Regardless, uBlock results in more performant web browsing.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by kazinator on Saturday October 03, 2015 @11:36AM (#10324236)
I switched Firefox from Adblock Plus to uBlock Origin on several different machines, the oldest being a 2007 vintage Core 2 Duo laptop Win 7, which lets 3 gigabytes of the machine's 4 be used. I couldn't tell any subjective difference in any of the installations.

If I have to formally measure the response time difference in response in an interactive app, it's below the don't care threshold.

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by wdr1 on Friday October 02, 2015 @02:39PM (#10320409)
>No alarm here for ABP users. (Like me).

Why? ABP also has an "acceptable ads" program, where you can pay to have ads whitelisted if you follow certain rules:

https://adblockplus.org/acceptable-ads

They are notably not transparent about who pays what & the like.

As far as I can tell, all Adblock is doing is following in Adblock Plus's footsteps.

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by thekevan on Friday October 02, 2015 @01:13PM (#10319830)
Except that they started allowing ads a while back and companies can pay ABP to have their ads allowed.

https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads

https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by hrnnnnnn on Friday October 02, 2015 @10:41AM (#10318850)
There's also two different versions of uBlock.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by newscracker on Friday October 02, 2015 @11:07AM (#10319001)
The original one, now called uBlock Origin [1] and the fork, now called uBlock [2]. The maker of the latter also sells Purify on the iOS app store.

[1]: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock - uBlock Origin

[2]: http://ublock.org/ - uBlock

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by kazinator on Friday October 02, 2015 @12:37PM (#10319573)
uTorrent started a meme of confusion. :)
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by UBlockPlus on Friday October 02, 2015 @11:04AM (#10318985)
Have you tried UBlock? Oh man it's so much better at killing ads.
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by greatthanks on Friday October 02, 2015 @09:57AM (#10318529)
https://acceptableads.org/

ABP is also supporting the independent acceptable ads manifesto.

Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by anc84 on Friday October 02, 2015 @10:31AM (#10318774)
Ctrl-F "tracking" Ctrl-W
Re:Adblock Sold to Mystery Company by tempodox on Friday October 02, 2015 @10:34AM (#10318801)
What, in vim(1) or in the Windoze registry?