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Re:The User Is Drunk by sharkweek on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:06PM (#9261029)
Love it -

How about this as an alternative: The user is stuck in a very (corporate/government/sluggish) environment. I will review your site/app from a major bank's / federal government's offices and report back!

Or maybe this: The user is a 65 year old dad whose son doesn't come around often enough to ensure his father hasn't installed countless malware that he blames "internet" on. I will go to my dad's house and use his computer to browse your site/app and report back!

This list really should get longer, HN, I turn to you.

Re:The User Is Drunk by johnlbevan2 on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:13PM (#9261057)
The user is a woman: standard UX testing, only you're forced to confront your own preconceptions for having assumed it would be otherwise.
Re:The User Is Drunk by cbd1984 on Thursday March 26, 2015 @05:04PM (#9273116)
> The user is a woman

Nothing changes.

Downvoters are sexist.

Re:The User Is Drunk by facepalm on Thursday March 26, 2015 @05:54AM (#9268602)
Citation needed.
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Re:The User Is Drunk by mrmondo on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @02:11AM (#9261533)
I think you just misread his comment - his point was anti-sexist.
Re:The User Is Drunk by TeMPOraL on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @03:41AM (#9261676)
There is exactly zero reason for bringing up gender in this thread, unless you're the kind of person who wants to turn every discussion into a gender problem.

If my service targets general population and I'm using only men in UX testing, I'm not being sexist - I'm just being an idiot, missing out on feedback that could be relevant to 50% of my audience.

Re:The User Is Drunk by johnlbevan2 on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @04:42PM (#9265790)
This thread is inspired by a joke concept (an interesting one, but ultimately primarily intended for fun). It features comments about drinking, cats, pensioners, toddlers and men. My intent was not to bring up a gender argument any more than the cat one was intended to enrage dog owners and have YouTubers flock to upvote. Merely to provide some amusement to the other readers of HN, an audience generally enlightened enough to appreciate such comments, and to join in on the theme & variations initiated by @sharkweek's comment.

With regards to your last comment; again I don't understand.

    "I'm not being sexist - I'm just being an idiot"
    "I'm not targeting only the tech savvy - as above"
    "I'm not forgetting accessibility - as above"
    "I'm not ignoring usability - as above"
    "I'm not a fan of IE6 - as above"
Consider also: your response could be considered trolling from another's perspective.
Re:The User Is Drunk by AimHere on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @08:34AM (#9262480)
And do you believe there are no idiots making websites?

Surely 'The user is a woman' suggestion is one method of cutting down on web designers making unthinking gender-related assumptions, just as the 'User is drunk' person is trying to provide a service related to competency-related assumptions...

Re:The User Is Drunk by knowtheory on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @08:36AM (#9262486)
If discussing gender is a threatening proposition to you, your problem is likely not that gender exists.

Also, you've admitted that gender matters since by general population statistics 50+% of your users aren't men? So like... seems like it'd be a legit topic to discuss?

Re:The User Is Drunk by hash9 on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @09:59AM (#9262961)
It doesn't have to be discussed in every single comment page on hackernews to be taken seriously, it gets tiresome. In traditional forums john's comment would be considered a topic derailment. What does a guy testing websites drunk have to do with gender in tech?
Re:The User Is Drunk by TeMPOraL on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @10:57AM (#9263339)
Exactly this. It not only gets tiresome, but people go batshit insane in topics about gender, and it spawns some of the most ridiculous threads on this site. I get it, it's an important topic, but not every goddamn thing boils down to women in tech issues.
Re:The User Is Drunk by sequoia on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @10:52AM (#9263298)
> There is exactly zero reason for bringing up gender in this thread

What, is it against the rules? No, I don't think it is. I think you should ask yourself why the topic makes you so upset/uncomfortable.

Re:The User Is Drunk by TeMPOraL on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @11:00AM (#9263356)
Just because it isn't against the rules, doesn't mean it's on-topic. Also, it's not the topic itself that makes me upset, it's the quality of discussion that usually follows. Most of the people lose their minds when they start to talk about politics. On HN this happens with social justice issues instead.
Re:The User Is Drunk by golergka on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @03:50AM (#9261700)
Well, although you didn't have any preconceptions, seems like you confronted them anyway.
Re:The User Is Drunk by dfullarton on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @01:28AM (#9261455)
I think that was his point?
Re:The User Is Drunk by amagumori on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @01:38AM (#9261476)
did you even read the post you replied to?
Re:The User Is Drunk by kordless on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @02:42AM (#9261588)
Did you understand his?

Regarding "nothing changes" he's spot on adding other groups that are entitled to fair and equal consideration. He's expanding the discussion, which is the point of this place (or is suppose to be).

Regarding 'speak for yourself', I have to agree with him. When someone uses 'you' or 'your' in a sentence indicating someone specific should 'confront your own preconceptions' what they are really doing is making a blanket blaming statement across a group of people on whether or not they have preconceptions.

That's a conversational no-no because someone doesn't have the right to speak for me on my behalf. It's the trust, man. It's the trust.

Re:The User Is Drunk by famblycat on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @08:25AM (#9262441)
Meh, I just read it as an anti-joke. I think you guys are getting worked up over nothing.
Re:The User Is Drunk by Uberphallus on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @06:03AM (#9261980)
The user is tripping balls on LSD. Will report back on how scary it was, how unexpectedly it worked, how tedious and unappealing the actions to do were, and how the colours sounded like.
Re:The User Is Drunk by joshrotenberg on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:23PM (#9261104)
The user has cats: what your site looks like just on the corners of the screen (or maybe even one or two corners) while random keys are being pressed by paws.
Re:The User Is Drunk by wickawic on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:59PM (#9261204)
The classic "How does your site perform if your cat is standing on the F11 key" test
Re:The User Is Drunk by tempestn on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @01:50AM (#9261495)
Lately my 3 year old's favourite passtime is to come sit on my lap while I'm trying to work (or surfing HN or whatever) and ask, "Can I press this key?" (Shift? "Uh, ya, sure.") "Can I press this key?" (Ctrl? "Sure.") Some of them make you think though. (F2? What will that do in this context?)

It's not among my most productive times, but it's fun. :)

Re:The User Is Drunk by semi-extrinsic on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @05:07AM (#9261848)
I let my 3 year old play with my laptop at times, by giving her a full screen xterm running bash in a separate tab on my tiling window manager. She mostly likes to type the letters she knows (her initial, my initial, uncle's initial etc) but it's surprising how often she manages to Ctrl-R or Windows-Shift-3 or some other combo that makes things go haywire.
Re:The User Is Drunk by bobbykjack on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @05:16AM (#9261878)
I hope she's not called Rebecca Mary-Rachel Ford ...
Re:The User Is Drunk by chiph on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @09:08AM (#9262634)
And has a cousin named Star.
Re:The User Is Drunk by semi-extrinsic on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @02:54PM (#9265116)
Haha! Fortunately, her initials are not all in ASCII, so it's not gone wrong yet. But true, I should set her up with a user account that doesn't have write access on anything.
Re:The User Is Drunk by asjo on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @05:42AM (#9261932)
Install sl(1) and teach your 3 year old to type s l ENTER :-)
Re:The User Is Drunk by coldpie on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @08:56AM (#9262571)
Boy, am I going to regret installing this in about an hour.
Re:The User Is Drunk by jakobegger on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @04:12AM (#9261739)
I told my 2 and a half year old that the "S" key is the snake key, so now he always asks "can i press snake?". He's also found a second snake (the 5 key).
Re:The User Is Drunk by bobbykjack on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @05:18AM (#9261883)
When he finds the '@', he's gonna be delighted!
Re:The User Is Drunk by joshschreuder on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @02:22AM (#9261556)
Your cat is talking at 3 years old? Very advanced!
Re:The User Is Drunk by joshrotenberg on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @12:43AM (#9261336)
With the standard, classic result: "poorly".
Re:The User Is Drunk by Arnor on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @12:41PM (#9264091)
AWS failed this test hard for me a couple weeks ago. A cat walking across my keyboard terminated an EC2 instance. Lesson learned: no cats on the desk when logged into mission critical software :)
Re:The User Is Drunk by chippy on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @06:06AM (#9261990)
The user is a bored developer working in a dead end job, they will either - look at it for 1 second and say "meh", close it and go back to reddit or if they like the colours say "cool" click around a bit for 5 seconds, close it and go back to reddit.
Re:The User Is Drunk by thenomad on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @07:05AM (#9262167)
Nah, that one already exists: http://fivesecondtest.com/

( I may be making assumptions about the user base, but I think "bored developer" is a reasonably safe bet...)

Re:The User Is Drunk by simi_ on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @07:10AM (#9262178)
My first thought was "this already exists, it's called HN/reddit/producthunt/etc" then I realised most of the times I upvote items just because they have a lot of upvotes/comments.

Side project idea: HN/PH where the ratings are hidden. This way you still get the curation bit, but people are free to make up their own minds about your website.

Re:The User Is Drunk by mrec on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @09:54AM (#9262928)
Reddit already supports this for upvotes; some subs hide the upvote/downvote numbers to prevent exactly this kind of thoughtless pile-on. I wish more did. I think it's usually "for the first <duration> after posting", but I presume it could be made permanent.
Re:The User Is Drunk by bbcbasic on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:46PM (#9261165)
User found you on Google. He intends to visit another 100 sites like yours to find what he wants, and therefore will only spend 3 to 10 seconds on your site.
Re:The User Is Drunk by abcd_f on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @05:23AM (#9261897)
Same for StumbleUpon, except the visit time is between 0.3 and 1.0 seconds.
Re:The User Is Drunk by lmartel on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @01:13AM (#9261415)
Funnily enough, this is the least realistic of all these suggestions :)
Re:The User Is Drunk by jabo on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:40PM (#9261142)
How about, user is using a screen reader or some other accessibility aid.
Re:The User Is Drunk by bashinator on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:43PM (#9261156)
Can you make it more hilarious?
Re:The User Is Drunk by TeMPOraL on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @03:46AM (#9261688)
Twitch Plays Navigate This Website Via A Screen Reader?
Re:The User Is Drunk by chippy on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @06:10AM (#9262000)
There was a Twitch Plays Internet Explorer once....
Re:The User Is Drunk by arfliw on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:18PM (#9261083)
The user in a 3rd World country and speaks (reads) very limited English. With 3rd World internet and an $80 computer.
Re:The User Is Drunk by abusque on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:40PM (#9261144)
There was a poster a few weeks back on here offering to test your web app on all the major ISPs/carriers in Dar es Salaam: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9133792
Re:The User Is Drunk by joslin01 on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:36PM (#9261132)
The user is not there - I will review your website as if I had never seen it before and don't intend to
Re:The User Is Drunk by joshrotenberg on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @12:46AM (#9261342)
Similar to "The User is Drunk ... with friends, at a bar, not at home on the couch alone on the internet."
Re:The User Is Drunk by prawn on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:21PM (#9261095)
Product/service reviews by not-so-tech-oriented parents or retirees could be quite entertaining.
Re:The User Is Drunk by j2kun on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:23PM (#9261101)
You can't complain when they send you a .docx file.
Re:The User Is Drunk by sharkweek on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @12:04AM (#9261213)
Few years ago asked my mom to send me a few photos from the family christmas - they showed up in my email inserted into a word doc.
Re:The User Is Drunk by prawn on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @01:57AM (#9261508)
This is how some of my clients send me screenshots. :(
Re:The User Is Drunk by TeMPOraL on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @03:44AM (#9261685)
This calls for a Clippy comeback. "I see you're trying to put your wedding photos into a document. Do you want me to show you how to use your e-mail client?".
Re:The User Is Drunk by bshimmin on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @05:11AM (#9261865)
I have one pair of clients who send me wireframes produced in Excel, sometimes with screenshots of LinkedIn (which serves as the inspiration for most of their ideas) pasted in. I find it quite amusing and genuinely like the clients as people, if not really as clients, so I don't have the heart to tell them how silly it is. (I did once try and get them to use Balsamiq, but it didn't end well.)
Re:The User Is Drunk by zhte415 on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @08:11AM (#9262365)
> I have one pair of clients who send me wireframes produced in Excel

There are no limits to Excel.

I've been sent floor plans in Excel where the spreadsheet has been zoomed out really really far, each square representing less than a square meter in a 20000+ square meter building.

Or banking applications where the terminal input screen (the backend is in COBOL) and batch reports are designed in (and print to) perfect square cell Excel files, one character per cell.

This goes through a very traditional corporate waterfall testing process, and everyone finds it normal.

Re:The User Is Drunk by dasboth on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @05:53AM (#9261954)
I've had screenshots inserted into PowerPoint presentations before. That was a low point.
Re:The User Is Drunk by prawn on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @09:19PM (#9267229)
Sadly, I've had that a number of times too. People can be quite inventive, and painful.
Re:The User Is Drunk by sthreet on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:34PM (#9261126)
My school counselor send scholarships in those.
Re:The User Is Drunk by FLUX-YOU on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @08:25AM (#9262437)
There is no user.
Re:The User Is Drunk by sleepyhead on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @11:04AM (#9263388)
The user reviews your site and writes HN-like comments about it.
Re:The User Is Drunk by hashberry on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @03:22AM (#9261648)
The user is drunk and high.

I want cannabis-inspired feedback.

Re:The User Is Drunk by djscram on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @11:47AM (#9263687)
The user skipped his ADHD meds today.