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I was similarly confused, and did some digging to determine that they are not related:

https://twitter.com/DAIRInstitute/status/1830719509931663411...

Yeah, capability for group permissions is a key part of the work happening on permissioned data in ATproto right now.

https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3meluqcwky22a

https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3mfrsbcn2gk2a

https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3mguviy6iks2a

https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3mhj6bcqats2o

I dunno man. Why was Tangled able to ship on top of ATProto even prior to getting funded, and ForgeFed has been hanging out for years?

I think you're missing the point.

With the IndieWeb version of POSSE, the source of truth is the webpage you control.

For the ATProto version of POSSE, the source of truth is the record in your PDS. That record is interesting because it is both content-addressed and signed with your private key.

Where ever that record is syndicated, the reader (or app displaying the content) should be able to demonstrably verify the authenticity of the record.

And you can host your own PDS entirely independent of Bluesky, there are several interfaces for both reading and publishing Standard.site records:

* Leaflet (https://leaflet.pub/ )

* pckt (https://pckt.blog/ )

* Wordpress (https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-atproto )

It's also not that hard to write your own display interface for just your data if you want.

This isn't accurate tho.

Neither Bluesky, nor other ATProto services require any of this.

RedDwarf is an example of an ATProto client that connects only with your PDS, uses Microcosm (https://www.microcosm.blue/ )'s aggregation index (they calculate aggregate counts for a variety of things with a couple of raspberry pis run off of a home fiber connection): https://reddwarf.app/

No big iron anywhere in the picture.

You give up the ability to search the network, but okay, that's already a feature that all Mastodon users sacrifice as well.

Yes, as far as i know it's an honest self-report kind of thing.

There are a lot of misunderstandings about what Blacksky is assuming that it's a just a community fork of Bluesky.

The Blacksky team has a much broader vision for which they decided ATProto was the right architecture.

There's a lot more to read about them up on their site: https://blackskyweb.xyz/

I love that the initial state itself isn't stable.

The world keeps moving around us. Can't choose staying still.

Anybody can sign up for Blacksky.

This is a piece written by Jeff Jarvis who was a founder of Entertainment Weekly and then a long time professor focused on innovation and journalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jarvis

So, it's a term of art, and i'll even agree that it's got a bit of a tech-y pejorative lean to it, but it's in wide use, and Jarvis certainly isn't solely a person who comes from tech.

I wouldn't write ATProto off as just microblogging, there are a bunch of interesting (and exciting depending on your POV) apps out there that _aren't_ microblogging apps. To name a few:

* https://stream.place

* https://tangled.org

* https://www.germnetwork.com/

* https://slices.network/

* https://smokesignal.events/

* https://www.graze.social/

There's still some more work to do to make the developer experience simple enough that it's a no-brainer for people to pick ATProto up in anger.

But there's a lot of work developing on that front, and the next 6-12 months will be super exciting to watch.

The longer story is that most people don't understand that ATProto is more than just Bluesky, and the usecases are wayyyyyy broader. That's going to take more time to play out in the market.

I'd argue that ATProto is the next iteration of open internet. It's what an internet where accounts/identity and verifiable content attribution are built in, and nobody using the technology needs to think about any of that.

There's a space here where we can move from nobody having smart phones or hosting digital presences -> everyone having digital presence provided by Facebook/Instagram, and icloud/google accounts -> Accounts w/ something like ATProto where its your stuff, you get to decide where you keep it, and you get to decide who gets access to it.

Yeah, that's falling directly into Facebook's talking points. It's a web extension, anybody can inspect the source. It doesn't do what Facebook is claiming. The NYU team bends over backwards to ensure that no personally identifying information about other users gets captured.

The privacy leak that Facebook is so concerned about is actually the identity of advertisers on their platform.

https://twitter.com/issielapowsky/status/1422879438765797380

It's very strange to call a proposal (negative income tax) made by economists as orthodox and central to 20th century conservative politics as Milton Freedman as _utopian_.

But even beyond the aspirations of a UBI/negative income tax, the real problem with any such proposal will be implementation and policy details which most UBI proponents don't talk about much if at all.

Will UBI be counted as income? How will this interact with other programs such as SNAP, healthcare subsidies, HUD housing subsidies, or any number of state operated programs? Will they be mutually exclusive?

Will existing policies or laws need to be modified in order to accommodate such a proposal?

Their crunchbase page says private for profit: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/scite#section-overvi...

Hey Jared, in fact, if you click into the video on the Open Steno page, the stenographer & developer you're talking about is Stan Sakai, who is involved in Open Steno:

https://twitter.com/stanographer

Right, and it's still sad to say that they capitalized on that fact so incredibly poorly that the following came to pass:

https://twitter.com/jacobian/status/1012781017940316161

> The Lawrence Journal-World, where Django was created, is now a Wordpress site. http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2018/jun/26/redesign-ljworld/

Oh thanks for pointing this out. I'll hit the Muckrock team up and see if we can get the text button in there.

Yeah man, learning to scan a paper for interesting content is definitely a skill worth developing!

Really? For a 6 white paper?

Fine:

Tilde built a server monitoring daemon with Rust and it's low resource and doesn't crash. Tilde thinks the Rust community & its resources make it easier to teach to new team members.

> I wonder if NYT can help other news websites by making their code open source?

Hey! I, and a number of other news nerds have been encouraging FOSS for the past decade or so. And in fact a number of major open source projects have come out of news related projects, including Django, Backbone.js/Underscore.js, Rich Harris's work on Svelt.js, and a whole lot more.

Most often the problem with local news organizations are operational constraints. The news biz has seen a huge downturn over this same period of time. Most orgs, both on the reporting side and on the tech side are super strapped for people-time.

It's not enough to have FOSS software, you also have to have folks doing devops and maintaining systems often at below-market salaries.

Nah, the paper explicitly states that their system is not recurrent nor convolutional:

> To the best of our knowledge, however, the Transformer is the first transduction model relying entirely on self-attention to compute representations of its input and output without using RNNs or convolution.

Nothing about OpenAI actually addresses any real world problem. So i have a problem with their rhetoric as much as their research agenda.

Nothing they're writing about addresses any of the real world problems with how AI can or might be applied in society. They're a non-profit research lab with no clear agenda and no clear connection to how they plan to interrogate the world which seems like an important part of the equation if you care about outcomes.

So, irrespective of subjective judgements, please explain to me how any of this is supposed to help anyone?

Or, alternatively, how isn't this just free R&D for industry unshackled and unconnected to ethics or society?