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Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by parfe on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @11:31AM (#9145373)
The idea of private citizens both being able to investigate companies for wrong doing and earn income for their work appeals to me. No lawsuit, no legal process. After doing some investigations, just some quick transactions on a trading account, and a blog post later.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by koenigdavidmj on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:57PM (#9146025)
There was a case study of short selling on NPR's Planet Money a few weeks ago: http://www.npr.org/2015/01/30/382587945/winning-at-short-sel...

Basically, the guy discovered a Chinese test prep company (think College Board) that had recently started to be listed on American stock exchanges, and discovered that their payment system returned an error. He emailed their support address, and it bounced. He hired a guy on Craigslist to go look at their business address in China, and it was discovered to be empty. He shorted the ever living crap out of the stock, broke the news, and won big.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by analog31 on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @10:14PM (#9149022)
Did he engage in insider trading? He traded on material, non-public information, although one could certainly argue that the non-existence of a business is public information.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by evanpw on Thursday March 05, 2015 @08:53AM (#9150708)
You have to get the information in breach of a duty of confidentiality (and in exchange for some personal benefit) in order for it to be illegal, at least in the US. If you discover something on your own, you're free to trade on it.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by koenigdavidmj on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @10:39PM (#9149098)
Attempting and failing to buy your product is one of the most public bits of information there is.

Observing the lack of any activity at your claimed corporate headquarters is pretty public too.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by eru on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @10:48PM (#9149125)
If you wanted to follow in the guy's footsteps, you might want to move a jurisdiction that's more accommodating of insider trading?
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by pavel_lishin on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:14PM (#9146165)
Odd, it doesn't appear to be on their podcast :/
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by twoodfin on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @02:32PM (#9146722)
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by pavel_lishin on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @03:19PM (#9147041)
Thanks!
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by DavidAdams on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:19PM (#9146198)
I heard the story on the podcast, so I'd think it's still available.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by jared314 on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @04:17PM (#9147420)
> He shorted the ever living crap out of the stock, broke the news, and won big.

Wait, I thought shorting meant he effectively sold shares to some other, unfortunate, investor.

It sounds like he participated in a pump and dump scheme/scam.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by downandout on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @06:37PM (#9148205)
>It sounds like he participated in a pump and dump scheme/scam.

"Pump and dump" means touting a stock using false information, and then dumping the shares before others realize that the information is false. On the other hand, information advantages (as long as they did not come from company insiders) are completely legal. This guy had an information advantage over those who bought the shares because he invested the time to investigate the company and others didn't. You are saying that outworking others is a "scheme/scam".

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by spinlock on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @05:38PM (#9147888)
Everyone who sells a stock is sending a clear signal that they think the money they are getting is worth more than the stock they are selling. So, I'm hard pressed to consider it a scam when someone acts in a completely transparent manner.

Also, why does it matter that he shorted the stock? What if he had previously purchased it off of a hot tip then, upon further due diligence, had decided the company wasn't as valuable as he had previously thought? There still has to be a counterparty to that trade.

At the end of the day, this guy probably saved more investors from being taken by this scam because he exposed it early. Without the incentive to make money, he would not have hired someone to investigate their offices in China. Without that investigation, he would not have shorted the stock, sending the market a clear signal that the stock was over-priced, and written up his research. Without his signaling and research, more people would have bought the stock, creating a bigger scam, and destroying more wealth.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by syntheticcdo on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @05:07PM (#9147704)
The short seller did nothing wrong. Shorting simply means he borrowed the stock in order to sell it-- sell high, wait for the price to drop, then buy low in order to return the shares to the lender. The buyer on the other side of the short sale should have done more due diligence. No one forced them (be it a person or an institution) to take up that position.

The Chinese company (or some affiliate) was the one who had pumped the stock up. The short seller was just a regular market participant who was rewarded for his hard work and diligence.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by jared314 on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @05:15PM (#9147754)
If you listen to the story, he shorted the stock, knowing it was a fraud, and then exposed it.

He knowingly created more victims of the scam.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by karmacondon on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @09:02PM (#9148790)
His short position added information to the market. At least in theory, other investors could have asked "Why does this person think that this company is less worth than it's current value?" and done their own research.

The short position provided incentive for him to expose the fraud publicly. It would have been nice if he'd done this research and told everyone about his findings out of the goodness of his heart, but that's a lot of work for little personal reward. The ability to short provided an additional incentive to make the information as public as possible.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by saidajigumi on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @05:13PM (#9147741)
> Wait, I thought shorting meant he effectively sold shares to some other, unfortunate, investor.

Why should we give a pass to investors willing to expose themselves to excessive risk from being uninformed about their investments?

Let's look further at this short selling behavior as it scales. What happens if investigative short-sellers become muckrakers noveau: sufficiently pervasive and influential that they collectively become the market "conscience" that so often seems missing?

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by jared314 on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @05:22PM (#9147788)
> Let's look further at this short selling behavior as it scales.

I'm not talking about general short selling. I'm talking about this specific case.

He discovered the company was a fraud, shorted the stock, and then exposed it. That stock had to be sold, to someone else, for the short to be profitable. This means he knowingly participated in the scam.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by clarky07 on Thursday March 05, 2015 @12:33AM (#9149417)
How is it a scam for a guy to do research on a company and then sell the stock when he decides said company isn't worth the current price. He isn't the person that made the company a scam, he just uncovered it. The poor sap on the other end didn't do as much research. Not they sellers fault. He can't be held responsible for the due diligence of every other investor in the world. That's basically what you are stating.

Every single stock transaction involves 2 people who think the opposite thing is going to happen. The vast majority of the time 1 of those participants knows more than the other.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by vtlynch on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @11:46PM (#9149301)
Yup, hard not to see it this way.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by Qworg on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:08PM (#9145665)
This exists - many manufacturing companies get hit up by chemical engineers who discover something in their product, backed by a lawyer. They get damages + fees and the product gets a "This is known to cause cancer in the State of California".
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by sk5t on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:50PM (#9145974)
Are you sure you mean chemical engineer and not chemist? Chemical engineers are usually more concerned with, e.g., how to produce something to a certain level of purity, designing a process or plant to work effectively, etc.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by Qworg on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:05PM (#9146095)
When a company I was working for received these, they were generally from chemical engineers (by title), but chemists showed up sometimes too.

I think the engineering part comes in from the testing for a battery of things.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by mindslight on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:46PM (#9145944)
To be fair, everything gets "This is known to cause cancer in the State of California". The only thing that label tells you is that the state of California likes to pointlessly sacrifice lab animals.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by Someone1234 on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:06PM (#9146096)
Everyone loves to give California a hard time, but they've done more to bring US product safety into the 21st century than any other US state. I'd describe California and the EU as being similar, and the rest of the US to be worse than either (some by far).

Fortunately since international companies want to sell all over the US and Europe, it has meant that this is the new baseline most of them shoot for. "Legal in California" means legal in the US (and likely EU).

It is better for everyone. It really is.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by mindslight on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:20PM (#9146204)
So, because they've done good they are immune from criticism?

Off the top of my head, I've witnessed this label at parking garages and Starbucks drink counters. For public locations, if the label's concern were legitimate wouldn't it be appropriate to fix the situation instead of just fostering an environment of ignored signage and faux consent?

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by aros on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @02:11PM (#9146569)
Is there a reason you frame every argument as a hyperbole?
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by drzaiusapelord on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:40PM (#9146344)
The cancer argument California politicians follow is based on non-scientific or non-conclusive research. The legislation that dictates this is Proposition 65 and its considered a public policy failure. Its the anti-vax and holistic crowds dictating policy.

It also has the secondary effect of making REAL cancer warnings seem trivial. "Oh cigarettes are bad? So are electric cords and pepsi according to California!"

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by driverdan on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @02:17PM (#9146616)
Can you cite any research to back your position?

Absurd regulations (like putting worthless "product may cause cancer" labels on everything) have resource costs. These resources could be put to better use.

A lot of CA regulation is like the TSA. The cost per life saved (or harm avoided / prevented) is astronomical. There are far better uses for the resources squandered.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by zerocrates on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @02:36PM (#9146746)
> It is better for everyone. It really is.

Except of course when they get it wrong and have to reverse course, as seen in the news over the last several years in the case of flame retardants for furniture.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by rwallace on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @06:30PM (#9148173)
What's the latest verdict on flame retardants? Last I heard, the conclusion was that they are carcinogenic, but you have to weigh the risk of dying of cancer in twenty years against the risk of dying in a fire tomorrow, and the best guess seemed to be that they save more lives than they cost.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by zerocrates on Thursday March 05, 2015 @08:06PM (#9154969)
Lately, the dialogue is skewed against flame retardant treatments, though this is probably as much because of Toxic Hot Seat as anything else.

So, my sense of the current "wisdom" is that the cancer and toxicity issues are significant, especially for firefighters, and the retardants offer relatively little protection against fires. A big factor in the turnaround is that the California standards were primarily concerned about protecting against dropped lit cigarettes, and so many fewer people smoke, particularly indoors.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by loarabia on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @05:17PM (#9147764)
Law of unintended consequences?

http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2012/11/15/pbdes-and-neurodev...

edit I didn't notice but zerocrates had already pointed this out.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by thrillgore on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @04:26PM (#9147479)
And what would the label say if it was Texas? "Materials meet FDA GRAS specifications?"

Oh wait there wouldn't be one.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by mc32 on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @11:36AM (#9145414)
Yeah this is pretty great. Good work and good result. My only caveat would be unscrupulous people spreading unfounded rumors or uninformed opinions passing as fact which could result in innocent companies suffering from lack or rigor on the did of citizen investigators. At least it appears sixty minutes did son of their own investigation --althouh I imagine they went in with guilt in mind, which worked out in this case, but can result in different outcomes in other cases.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by hga on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:27PM (#9145805)
From The Fine Article:

"When Zhou began looking into the Toano, Virginia-based company back in 2013, he says he found online complaints about its Chinese-made flooring. So he bought products from Lumber Liquidators and paid to have them analyzed. The results led him to publish a post on investing website Seeking Alpha on June 20, 2013, that advocated shorting the stock because the tests showed levels of formaldehyde above California requirements."

So while others might indeed lie, we seem to have enough confirmation from the subsequent investigations that Zhou did not. And there was no reason to believe he lied, this is a target rich environment after all.

And while 60 Minutes is entirely untrustworthy (I've watched them lying on the air for decades, since the '70s), likely would have started with "guilt in mind", in this case they chose a worthy target.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by shiven on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @02:53PM (#9146880)
And while 60 Minutes is entirely untrustworthy ...

Wait, what? Any proof for that statement? How come they are still on air? Why wasn't their parent broadcaster sued out of existence, if what you claim is true?

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by fnordfnordfnord on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @03:07PM (#9146960)
Benghazi coverage, the Bush National Guard story coverage, their NSA/Snowden fluff piece, etc. It's not hard to find credible criticism of 60 Minutes, even if you can't tell just by watching it.

http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/60_minutes_bad_run.php

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by res0nat0r on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @04:17PM (#9147419)
Lara Logan was suspended from the show for months after airing her report, and the show issued an on air retraction and apology about that story after it broke that the main person they interviewed for the piece was lying.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by pbreit on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @03:53PM (#9147256)
But "entirely untrustworthy" is quite a stretch.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by erobbins on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @03:07PM (#9146959)
The first one that comes to mind was their fraudulent reporting about the audi 5000 and "sudden acceleration" in the 80s. Their lies almost destroyed an entire company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_100#Reported_sudden_uninte...

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by hga on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @03:55PM (#9147274)
And before that, in 1980, a hatchet job on the Jeep, must have been the CJ-7 both because of the date and how difficult it was for them to roll it, even using robot drivers that manipulated the steering wheel twice as fast as a human can while gunning the engine.

There was plenty of less overt stuff in the '70s. Then you might mosey through this list, which only has the worst of the worst: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60_Minutes#Controversies

Per that, it took 15 years for Audi sales to recover.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @05:09PM (#9147715)
It would be interesting to see if anyone associated with the show has made money of this - surely if you know, a week or two before it airs, of a piece that's going to destroy the reputation of a company then you can trade on that to great effect.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by jordan0day on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @11:50AM (#9145533)
On the one hand, I'd love to believe that people were rational and would actually examine the data before rushing to follow some advice they got on a site like seeking alpha, so that bad actors wouldn't be able to profit by spreading false accusations. Not having to rely on a drawn-out (and sometimes unreliable) legal process would be great.

On the other hand, we have plenty of evidence that people are really bad at being suspicious of the often unreliable stuff they read on the internet. For example, measles has made a roaring comeback in the USA, so even when their own children's health is involved, it seems people aren't willing to actually read farther than a couple of emotionally-charged blog posts before making decisions.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by fnordfnordfnord on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:21PM (#9145764)
The trend in measles cases is troubling, but to call it a "roaring" comeback is hyperbole.

http://www.vox.com/2015/1/29/7929791/measles-outbreak-2014

tl;dr Measles was imported to a group of unvaccinated Amish by a resident returning from a missionary trip. The Amish accounted for a large portion of those infected in the US. The good news is that many Amish opted to take the vaccine after seeing the effect of measles in their community.

Here is an older article (2024)

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/health/measles-cases-in-us...

A few snippets from the article.

  * There were fewer than 200 cases last year (2013); the record low was 37 cases in 2004.
  * Eighty-five percent of this year’s cases were in people not vaccinated because of religious, philosophical or personal objections, Dr. Schuchat said.
  * Almost half the cases were part of a continuing outbreak in Amish communities in Ohio 
  * In an unusual twist, over half were ages 20 or older. They may have included adults whose parents refused to vaccinate them years ago, she said.
  * Forty-three of the 288 who contracted the virus were hospitalized, most with pneumonia. None died.
  * There were 60 cases in California, mostly in the San Francisco Bay Area and in Orange County, where large numbers of wealthy parents refuse to vaccinate their children.
And to put it in perspective

* France, the world’s most popular tourist destination, had an outbreak of 20,000 cases from 2008 to 2011.

The 2014 CDC MMWR report if you want

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6322a4.htm?s_cid=...

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by joezydeco on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:01PM (#9146059)
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by burger_moon on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:35PM (#9146307)
Without fact finding you end up with results like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Lebed

Kid used message boards to pump and dump stocks until the SEC intervened.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by nosuchthing on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @04:02PM (#9147320)
Recent similar story of kid with penny stocks and internet hype: http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/3/7319277/whiz-kid-penny-sto...
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by Rainymood on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @11:51AM (#9145540)
Wasn't there this russian guy who did this with bio-tech companies? Spread some rumors and used them to make profitable stock trades. I can recall him being hired by some american/foreign hedge fund after ...
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by Potando on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @11:56PM (#9149323)
Further investigation would show it's OK. The main losers would be the investors who believed the false information. So that's not a problem.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by basseq on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:10PM (#9146136)
I'm going back and forth on this kind of activity and profit driver. Two points of view (ignoring spam artists and other bad actors):

1. It's bad because it's not objective. Reporting organizations tout themselves as objective. Very often in financial reporting, you see a disclaimer: "Author does not have an interest in Company." Having a financial stake in the news biases the author towards findings that support his position, rather than seeking the truth.

2. It's good because it encourages accuracy. In the era of clickbait headlines and mantras of "publish first, verify later", the idea that the author could have something riding on the accuracy of his investigation is appealing. It rewards writers in more than reputation.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by MicroBerto on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @02:45PM (#9146818)
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Never underestimate the power of the pen and some quality research.

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Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by marinabercea on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @03:08PM (#9146964)
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Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by MicroBerto on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @05:12PM (#9147738)
Thanks! It's world-wide, but I believe European labels are more strict in terms of having to explain what exact doses you are using of the aminos.

But that doesn't mean you can't lie, or get screwed by your raw material supplier. That's why the companies that actually follow the existing laws and test their incoming and outgoing product have been way on top of this and those crappy suppliers.

FYI - About to post a blog article in an hour or two that you'll enjoy. It's about the ongoing NY Attorney General supplement testing fiasco.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by rokhayakebe on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @11:47AM (#9145506)
Investigative journalism? There is definitely an opportunity for a site that allows such reporting.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by jordan0day on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @11:58AM (#9145593)
Who would pay for it? We've already seen that people aren't willing to pay for quality journalism, so we're left with advertisers? Who obviously don't want their own products being investigated.

Perhaps though if somehow you could get companies to pay for investigations into their competitors? Like an anti-advertising model? I presume this would end up a zero-sum game though, and companies would opt to not play at all.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by ansible on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:05PM (#9145637)
Or just fund it like Xuhua Zhou did, with short-selling. Maybe some combination of these, banding together with the Consumer's Union and other interest groups.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by vec on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:20PM (#9145761)
Short selling is necessary and good as a stopgap measure, but there's at least one good reason we shouldn't want it to be a go-to reward strategy. Most investments have a bounded worst-case loss. You can only lose as much money as you put into it. Short selling, however, is backwards; you have a strictly bounded best-case profit and the theoretical maximum loss is infinite.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by bradleyjg on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:24PM (#9145786)
If you know the time frame you expect the market moving news to come out you can go short with limited downside by buying put options. You also get more leverage that way.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by eru on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @10:54PM (#9149138)
How do you get more leverage? Aren't the put options another expense?
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by rokhayakebe on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @08:50PM (#9148759)
Who would pay for it?

That's the whole point: No one. I care enough about some subjects that I would work on it for an entire year if it meant enough people would read it.

Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by downandout on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:44PM (#9146371)
In a perfect world, this would be as positive as you make it sound. However, short sellers as a group are a particularly vicious breed of cutthroat trader looking to inflict as much damage to their chosen stocks as possible as quickly as possible. Many of their targets aren't nearly as deserving of these attacks as Lumber Liquidators was here.
Re:How a 25-Year-Old Investor Spurred Lumber Liquidators’ Pl... by mathattack on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @03:41PM (#9147185)
It's a big risk though. You can be right, but there may be other reasons why the stock moves. If you don't get on 60 minutes and the company gets acquired, you could face a big loss of capital.