Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment

Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by matthewmacleod on Thursday February 19, 2015 @06:09AM (#9073458)

Flexbox, or display: table-cell.

These have been supported for a while now – you're not going to get old browser support, but they're not going to support 3D features either, so your complaint is either flame bait or ignorance.

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by bonn1 on Thursday February 19, 2015 @06:34AM (#9073525)

> These have been supported for a while now

For Safari still the -webkit prefix is required which is a bit odd

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by zghst on Thursday February 19, 2015 @01:52PM (#9076018)

Webkit keeps prefixes usually because it is not implemented fully and it is an experimental feature. They began unprefixing flexbox in Sept. 2014, I don't know when it's gonna ship.

Though, its super unfair that the Web Inspector in Webkit uses unprefixed Flexbox (http://trac.webkit.org revision 173707).

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by bicknergseng on Thursday February 19, 2015 @11:47AM (#9075013)

Safari is the new IE. No idea why they still require vendor prefix for a range of accepted and implemented standards.

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by kowdermeister on Thursday February 19, 2015 @06:51AM (#9073564)

The world is a cruel place :)

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by laughinghan on Thursday February 19, 2015 @01:41PM (#9075947)

Aren't you comparing the capability to do 3D with the straightforwardness of vertical centering, though? Certainly CSS has the capability to do vertical centering of multiline text, and I wouldn't call the 3D rendering strategy in this experiment amazingly straightforward---in fact, the cleverness of the technique is one of the things that makes this experiment so cool.

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by equil on Thursday February 19, 2015 @05:08AM (#9073290)

something wrong with flex box?

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by audessuscest on Thursday February 19, 2015 @05:28AM (#9073363)

no IE8 and IE9 support...

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by Narretz on Thursday February 19, 2015 @05:41AM (#9073394)

If you want new features, you cannot expect old browsers to be supported, that's just the way it works.

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by zghst on Thursday February 19, 2015 @01:59PM (#9076068)

Fallback for IE8 and IE9, display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle; Note that the element needs an explicit height for this to work...

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by Izeau on Thursday February 19, 2015 @05:37AM (#9073385)

Even Google doesn’t support those anymore…

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by Cephlin on Thursday February 19, 2015 @08:02AM (#9073773)

Why would anyone want to use/support those browsers. First off their IE... secondly they're seriously out of date.

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by AustinG08 on Thursday February 19, 2015 @11:34AM (#9074919)

Tell that to the boss

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by jastanton on Thursday February 19, 2015 @12:03PM (#9075144)

If you're the developer that's your job to tell that to your boss. Come up with analytics to support your findings, make your case, he's probably not going to be reading this thread and staying up to date on all the latest and greatest that's your job. He may be stubborn or you might find out that your user base is all IE6 I don't know but sitting around complaining isn't going to get you anywhere either :)

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by O____________O on Thursday February 19, 2015 @01:41PM (#9075946)

Come up with analytics to support your findings

Analytics are irrelevant when you're writing some huge internal service for a company whose conservative upgrade policy dictates that only one older browser will be installed and used company-wide until God-knows-when.

By the way, glancing at a few browser market share websites, it looks like IE8 and IE9 are alive and well, totaling around the same as IE11.

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by AustinG08 on Thursday February 19, 2015 @02:22PM (#9076271)

Lol I am hardly "sitting around and complaining." At my last agency gig we had to support down to IE6 for several months until we built a strong case to only support down to IE8. Even still it was much harder and protracted battle than it should have been.

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by Raphmedia on Friday February 20, 2015 @04:45PM (#9083272)

My fancy looking website doesn't have to look good on somebody's office computer. If they had a good firewall, it would probably be blocked anyway. Also, people still on old IE are used to seeing websites all busted up.

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by Joeri on Thursday February 19, 2015 @03:14PM (#9076670)

You meant "Only Google doesn't support those anymore..."

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by hawleyal on Thursday February 19, 2015 @09:24AM (#9074078)

You should not center things vertically.

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by alexcasalboni on Thursday February 19, 2015 @04:58AM (#9073258)

True story. Too many hacks are needed for that: http://css-tricks.com/vertically-center-multi-lined-text/

Anyways, centered stuff is evil! http://uxmovement.com/content/why-you-should-never-center-al...

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by Izeau on Thursday February 19, 2015 @05:40AM (#9073392)

This article isn’t about vertically-centered text but horizontally-centered text. You don’t expect the starting place of each line to change with vertically-centered text!

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Re:Apparently transparent – CSS3D HTML5 Experiment by michaelbuddy on Thursday February 19, 2015 @03:59PM (#9077004)

centered 'stuff' is not evil. Centered blocks of paragraphs are not as pleasing to look at and are harder to work around with the rest of your content elements making up the design. But he's talking about centering it from top to bottom: vertically centered. Which is not evil but would be a very easy thing for CSS to just do in all browsers. yet it can't seem to accomplpish it. Every 'rule' can be broken when done effectively. another expert will tell you that only a minority reads our paragraphs of text anyway. And another expert will tell you that the harder it is to read something the better the comprehension will be.

If clean lines really solved the worlds problems, we'd be in much better shape by now.

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