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Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by eps on Monday October 20, 2014 @06:23AM (#8481420)
This so reminiscent of Japanese robotic kits. Just look at the assembly process from the beginning of the video ... damn :) My dad got me a simple clap-and-it-walks robot kit when I was 8 or 9 and I still remember the insane excitement of putting it together... It was a one-time thing, but the rush of making something physical and complex from a pile of simple parts is really something. Especially when it actually works in the end.

I mean, this sort of thing has virtually no immediate practical value, but it is such a treat for anyone who likes to tinker with things.

Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by hobbes78 on Monday October 20, 2014 @01:13PM (#8483238)
Does anyone remember playing with the Logo programming language in the 80's and being able to control a "turtle" robot that had a pen attached and was able to pretty much do the same?
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by freiheit on Monday October 20, 2014 @04:11PM (#8484221)
Yes. I learned recursion from drawing "trees" with it when I was about 12...
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by rqphqel on Monday October 20, 2014 @07:41AM (#8481593)
Too bad this is not open source but CC by-nc-sa.
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by jgmmo on Monday October 20, 2014 @01:13PM (#8483240)
My thoughts exactly.

I hate when companies call it open hardware, but then turn around and say 'non-commercial use only'.

Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by fizx on Monday October 20, 2014 @07:46PM (#8485166)
You can't commercially sell the bots, but their output is fair game. Think of it like a GPL'd compiler. This seems reasonable to me.
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by mikeash on Monday October 20, 2014 @10:07PM (#8485581)
Except you can sell a GPL compiler.
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by nanoscopic on Monday October 20, 2014 @11:28AM (#8482582)
If you get the parts cut via the linked online place ( ponoko ) it costs $48 just to get the cut parts. This obviously doesn't include the rest of the parts. Buying all the needed parts for this would cost $130 ( am including the $48 here ) each if you build them yourself. You'd have to build at least 5 to get this price. Realistically making one of these would cost around $200.

It will never be sold commercially, since the designs are CC by-nc-sa.

Unless you are hardcore about building cute expensive tech toys, best move along.

Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by VLM on Monday October 20, 2014 @11:49AM (#8482715)
In capability it appears to basically be a "flat eggbot" and an eggbot costs $200. I bought one on sale back in '11 and have been inking a new personalized christmas ornament with it every season since then (more or less).

As a tool, its hourly cost has gotten pretty low compared to other toys. If I could find a similar recreational activity for this device, I'm just saying past experience shows that something similar ends up as a reasonable financial deal.

Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by nanoscopic on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @11:15AM (#8487748)
I agree that it may in fact be reasonable to pay $150 ( perhaps even $200 ) for such a thing. The real cost is much higher due to a need to solder components. This is an especial blocker for people with no soldering experience.

Really, the whole thing would make sense if it had a full cost breakdown to make a single one of them, getting the parts mostly from one location, rather than a random mix, many requiring a minimum purchase of X of them, instead of one.

It's a really cool project, it is just unclear exactly how much effort and money it would cost to make one of these. ( and what tools would be needed )

Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by sitkack on Monday October 20, 2014 @05:28PM (#8484618)
It would be better to build a drawbot with 3 servos and an arduino.
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by joshu on Monday October 20, 2014 @03:55PM (#8484131)
i have a small cnc machine. i wonder if i can adapt the model to be cut out from that.
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by nnnnni on Monday October 20, 2014 @06:25AM (#8481422)
I wonder if a 3d printer hot end could be added to this thing? It'd be the perfect (ie cost-effective) way to print small figures (eg minis for wargames)!
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by ckvamme on Monday October 20, 2014 @09:24AM (#8481973)
You may be able to attach a 3Doodler

http://the3doodler.com/

Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by rplnt on Monday October 20, 2014 @08:10AM (#8481689)
You would need to move it (or the print) on the z-axis as well. And printer heads are usually quite big and heavy, I'm not sure if they can get small enough for this.
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by unwind on Monday October 20, 2014 @11:11AM (#8482470)
The Piccolo seems to be a 3-axis machine, i.e. it can already do that since lifting the pen is quite essential when drawing.

However, I guess it can't control the extrusion rate dimension that a 3D printer has, so it would still fall a bit short.

Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by VLM on Monday October 20, 2014 @11:22AM (#8482545)
Use the CNC to move the stage, not the head.
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by geon on Monday October 20, 2014 @04:29PM (#8484311)
Look at the spiral it's drawing. It has way too much play, like several mm.
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by sytelus on Monday October 20, 2014 @08:29PM (#8485306)
I know there is a huge coolness factor to this but why do I need 3-axis moving thing to do 2-axis drawings? Can't I just use software to print them out straight out of printer?
Re:Piccolo, a tiny CNC bot by ssw1n on Monday October 20, 2014 @12:08PM (#8482835)
For a second there, I thought it would be about a Command and Control Bot, and was really intrigued ....