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Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by drdaeman on Thursday August 07, 2014 @05:34AM (#8146874)
> but you need your own IP

Not anymore, unless you need to support antiquities like IE7 on Windows XP or some ancient Java-based software. SNI works just fine in other cases.

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by chmars on Thursday August 07, 2014 @07:09AM (#8147062)
OK, good to know – although there are apparently still some restrictions according to comments by other HN users.

SSL is still more expensive, though. For most small content websites (< 500-1000 visitors a day), a shared hosting is sufficient with costs of maybe around 100 USD/year. For SSL, you usually need a more expensive hosting, you have to buy a certificate (OK, available for less than 10 USD if you don't care about it's quality but need mainly browser support without an ugly warning window) and most hosters allow SSL only for one domain in a hosting.

Example:

Shared hosting with 4 WordPress blogs, SSL is active but only to access the control panel since the hoster allows SSL only for one domain. Costs incl. a cheap SSL certificate: 110 USD/year.

All 4 WordPress blogs with SSL, i.e., 4 shared hostings plus 4 cheap SSL certificates: 440 USD/year.

(And caching with a Wordpress plugin is probably no longer possible …)

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by antsar on Thursday August 07, 2014 @11:17AM (#8148115)
StartSSL is 0 USD/year. There should be more providers like them, and if the barriers to entry ($$$$) weren't so insurmountable, I'd happily start one myself. But they do a good job, and I've used several free certs from them with no issues.

https://www.startssl.com/?app=1

You also don't need "expensive" hosting, it just needs to support SSL which is free from a technical perspective. You no longer need a dedicated IP either.

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by dserodio on Thursday August 07, 2014 @05:19PM (#8150182)
> available for less than 10 USD if you don't care about it's quality

A cert with a larger key is better than one with a smaller key, but other than that, what's the "quality" of a SSL certificate?

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by chx on Thursday August 07, 2014 @06:51PM (#8150546)
> a shared hosting is sufficient with costs of maybe around 100 USD/year

Galopping gargoyles, where do you host that shared costs you $100? A small VPS costs half.

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by icebraining on Thursday August 07, 2014 @08:16AM (#8147278)
PositiveSSL Multi-Domain certs allow enterprises and web hosts to secure multiple websites by including up to 100 domains within a single certificate.

$29.88/year.

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by look_lookatme on Thursday August 07, 2014 @11:08AM (#8148065)
Link? The numbers I see for this service are:

"Base certificate costs $165.00 for three domains"

"After the third domain, each additional domain costs just $45.00"

http://www.positivessl.com/multi_domain_ssl_certificate.php

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by icebraining on Thursday August 07, 2014 @11:47AM (#8148314)
Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by pzxc on Thursday August 07, 2014 @01:57PM (#8149091)
That's only for 3 domains, not 100. 3 domains at $30/year is $10/year/domain which is no different than buying individual certs.

The multidomain cert supports up to 100 domains, but the cost is $29.88/year for the first 3 included, plus an additional $12.88/year for each additional domain.

Under this price structure, you could have 100 domains covered with one certificate, but it would cost you $1,279.24 per year for that single certificate.

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by icebraining on Thursday August 07, 2014 @02:33PM (#8149320)
That's only for 3 domains, not 100.

Nobody said otherwise.

3 domains at $30/year is $10/year/domain which is no different than buying individual certs.

The problem was that shared hosting plans didn't support multiple certs, forcing people with a few sites to purchase a plan for each. The multidomain cert solves this problem.

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by look_lookatme on Thursday August 07, 2014 @12:09PM (#8148463)
Thanks!
Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by dwd on Friday August 08, 2014 @12:13AM (#8151434)
The shortage of IPv4 addresses and the horribly slow adoption of IPv6 is a big issue.

SNI works fine, but when it doesn't it fails horribly. Apache defaults to the first vhost on an IP which can result in non-SNI clients being redirected to the wrong site.

As for XP/IE7 usage, I have a client in an aerospace related industry with most of their customers still on XP/IE7.

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by eli on Thursday August 07, 2014 @01:16PM (#8148857)
Check your own stats before you assume you don't still have Win XP/IE users. I have quite a few.
Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by jahnu on Thursday August 07, 2014 @06:48AM (#8147017)
Here's a list of browsers that support it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication#Browsers...

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by nulltype on Thursday August 07, 2014 @06:51AM (#8147024)
Except with the most popular version of Python
Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by icebraining on Thursday August 07, 2014 @08:05AM (#8147236)
Works fine if you use requests, or any other HTTP library which hasn't been left to rot like the one in the 2.x stdlib.
Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by Wilya on Thursday August 07, 2014 @06:51PM (#8150541)
Out of the box, requests on Python2.7 doesn't support SNI.

It is documented, and all you have to do is install additional packages to enable it, but still, that's not automatic.

Re:HTTPS as a ranking signal by dchest on Friday August 08, 2014 @01:04AM (#8151540)
It will be available in the future maintenance release http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0466/