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Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by zerohp on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @08:59AM (#8036123)
There's only one easy way to cancel service with a company like Comcast. You have to lie and tell them you're moving to a city that they don't serve.

They don't transfer you to customer retention and you'll be off the phone in a few minutes.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by tombrossman on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @10:00AM (#8036439)
The easiest way to cancel services with shit companies like this is by mail. Spend a few minutes typing a letter, pay the small extra fee for proof of delivery, and you are done. Your post office probably has an automated self-serve kiosk where you can do this in under 5 minutes. Time is money, don't allow a company to spend your time like this.

Sure, you should be able to cancel on the phone with no hassle but that is a pipe dream. This is one instance where the old-school method still works best. I've done this with Verizon & Sprint when I lived in the States and was even able to cancel without penalty (they raised SMS a few cents each time) and not deal with their retentions people.

Now it is my preferred method for anything that takes over 10 minutes on the phone. Even if they are on the line, 10 minutes is a hard cutoff and I hang up, type a short letter, and mail it. It's low-tech but very effective.

And for anyone else with Comcast, here's the fine print that Ryan should have read to save all this aggravation. Scroll down to section 9 b (1): https://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Customers/Policies/Subscri...

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by gamerdonkey on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @10:25AM (#8036578)
Maybe Ryan read down to 9 b (3):

"you may terminate this Agreement for any reason at any time by notifying Comcast in one of three ways: [...] (3) call our customer service line during normal business hours"

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by saamm on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @10:32AM (#8036624)
I'm going to be canceling Comcast around the end of the month. You're telling me I can just send a letter to my local service center and say, "Peace out!"?
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by bradleyland on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @11:59AM (#8037197)
I have canceled many internet service accounts (while working with customers) from both Comcast and AT&T. While infuriating, this is not representative of the vast majority of my experiences. Reason being, this is not how retention reps are trained. This guy was clearly on a personal mission. I would be surprised if he still works for Comcast.

Here's a really simple guide to getting past customer retention:

1) Be courteous. There is no better way to get mired down in customer retention hell than to give the rep a reason to run you around.

2) Feel free to share your reasons (briefly), but be clear (politely!) that your mind won't be changed. "I need to see for myself" is always a good way to dismiss the rep's reasoning.

3) In the off chance that you get a rep like the one featured here, simply hang up and call back in a few minutes. There's absolutely no reason to invest this much frustration in a company like Comcast.

I've only had one or two cases where I simply hung up on an overzealous rep. In all other cases, the process consisted of answering two or three questions, then I was on to cancellation.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by HarryHirsch on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @01:06PM (#8037622)
In all other cases, the process consisted of answering two or three questions, then I was on to cancellation.

It's not my job to play along with their script and help them raise revenue. It's their job to cancel service, no questions asked.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by bradleyland on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @02:58PM (#8038300)
I certainly agree. I'm only offering practical advice for those who wish to call, however. If you'd rather write a letter, then absolutely do so.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by AppSec on Thursday July 17, 2014 @03:29PM (#8049670)
There should be only one question from the rep: Is there anything we can do to change your mind? If the customer responds with anything indicating a willingness to discuss rates or packages, then by all means continue. If the customer says: No, I just want to cancel. Then turn it off.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by ipsin on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @11:04AM (#8036823)
Don't forget to include a few particulars:

* Who you are

* Where you are receiving service

* Your account number

* What date this cancellation is effective on

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by tombrossman on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @11:30AM (#8036984)
That's right. Keep it very short and sweet, and include the information they need to process your request. "Dude, cancel me" probably isn't going to work so think it through and refer to the contract. Everything you need to cancel is in there.

If you have any equipment to return add that too, and tell them you will be returning it to the store (you might even mail it if it's just a card).

A properly written letter is really effective, and makes great evidence in court if things go wrong and the company fails to honor their side of the bargain. Been there, done that, and won.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by pavel_lishin on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @03:10PM (#8038368)
> Been there, done that, and won.

That would be an interesting write-up to read about.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by mikeryan on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @01:40PM (#8037845)
Assuming you have Comcast equipment if a local service center is accessible it might be worth your time to walk in and drop the equipment off when you cancel. There can be a long tail on these if you have to send back equipment. The folks working the counter at these places also don't have a "retention specialist" they kick you to.

I have to say I canceled Comcast for a few months between houses my experience was pretty painless, I called in and they in-fact even sent pre-paid shipping boxes to return my modem and cable box.

Heck considering the profile this call is getting I'm guessing their "retention specialists" are going to be pretty light touch for a while.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by pseudonym on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @01:20PM (#8037725)
I typically have the best results by being rude.

"I'd like to cancel my service."

"But why w-"

"I'd like to cancel my service."

"Buy we co-"

"I'd like to cancel my service."

It's not something I particularly like to trot out, but if I have to spend more than 5 minutes on the phone for something like this, it's what I tend to trot out, and I don't have to repeat myself (and interrupt them) more than two or three times for them to get the point.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by thatthatis on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @06:13PM (#8039423)
"Cancel my service"

"Can you cancel my service?"

"I won't be answering any of your questions, just cancel my service".

"Cancel my service or transfer me to someone who can"

The use of worlds like "Please" and "I'd like to" just tells them that you'll indulge their scripts and tactics. It's not rude to steamroll a system intentionally designed to make it hard to cancel.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by ShabbyDoo on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @12:30AM (#8040571)
I learned that panhandlers, at least in Chicago, interpret polite negative responses as opportunity and will continue to bother me. So, I have taken to saying flatly, "Not happening." It's not so rude or demeaning that I inadvertently pick a fight, but it's blunt enough to let them know that they're just wasting their time with me.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by netnichols on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @06:43AM (#8041412)
When I'm in a place where these folks will follow you around, I turn as robotic as possible and answer once (or maybe twice to make things perfectly clear) with a simple "no". I try to leave no room for interpreting playfulness or agressiveness.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by thatthatis on Saturday July 19, 2014 @11:37AM (#8057743)
It's an interesting line to try to find: the least rude way to shut down a solicitation with one sentence or gesture.

I've found a hard stare and a subtle "no" gesture with my head generally does the trick with street solicitors.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by Crito on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @06:10PM (#8039400)
I've had similar experience while dealing with Comcast installation techs.

The installation tech insisted that he needed to use my computer to complete the installation. My computer (running Debian, so using it was out of the question anyway) was sitting right in front of both of us. I told him that he didn't need to use it (which is true) and he insisted that he did. Then I told him that I did not have a computer. We could both see it, but only by insisting that I did not have a computer was I able to get him to complete the installation without using it (he made a short phonecall, and that was it).

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by netnichols on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:16AM (#8036200)
Nice idea, so long as you're in the US where you don't really have an 'official' location...

I tried to do this once in Berlin to cancel a gym membership outside of the contractual limits. They required showing an official 'de-registration' from the city of Berlin. I was moving within the city at the time, so instead of telling the city I was moving, I instead told the city I was leaving and then a few weeks later reregistered with my new address.

Unfortunately I wasn't aware that this would reset the amount of uninterrupted time spent in Germany which is needed for getting a permanent residency. D'oh!

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by vonmoltke on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @10:50AM (#8036737)
Why is a gym allowed to demand such documentation in the first place?
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by freehunter on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @01:39PM (#8037835)
I was with Anytime Fitness until I moved, and I could only get out of my contract by sending them a copy of my new driver's license. I was willing to pay the ETF, but they demanded I show them my license in-person to get out, when I was hundreds of miles away. Finally I cancelled the card they were charging, let them sweat for a bit, then called and said "offer me some other way and you will get your money". They then let me email them.

But yeah, if I didn't have proof that I moved, I would have been stuck in the contract forever.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by pavel_lishin on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @03:14PM (#8038393)
Isn't that fairly risky? What if they had passed the account to collections?
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by freehunter on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @04:22PM (#8038746)
I had a record showing that I had tried to be reasonable, so if anyone reasonable was willing to talk to me, they could see that. But the reason I didn't just cancel the card and leave it at that is exactly that reason. After a month of them trying to bill me on a cancelled card, I called them and offered to pay the ETF PLUS the late fee if they would just let me email them proof that I had moved. It was still cheaper than flying back just to show them my drivers license.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by renata on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @12:00PM (#8037199)
I'd be more concerned with having to register with a city....
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by smcl on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @04:10AM (#8041047)
This is common if you live abroad - registering with the foreign police.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by akgerber on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @11:22AM (#8036938)
Sounds like s/he signed a contract with the gym which s/he only break if leaving town.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by netnichols on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @02:57AM (#8040886)
It wasn't quite that bad... I could cancel for any reason, but only up to something like a month before the next billing cycle.

I of course realized this around 2 weeks before the next billing cycle, so I would have been forced to pay for the whole year if I didn't show that I was leaving the city.

So I certainly have some blame to my name for not having read the contract more carefully... it just all seemed a bit crazy at the time for a gym membership.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by DanBC on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @12:50PM (#8037520)
"Outside of the contractual limits".
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by oneandoneis2 on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:00AM (#8036128)
I usually cover all bases by claiming I'm emigrating and leaving the country - only way to be sure :)
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by jerf on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:13AM (#8036190)
"Well, do you serve the International Space Station? No? Then I will not be able to use your service."
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by hyperliner on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:31AM (#8036265)
"I an in the Navy, and will be in a submarine for the next two years"
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by farmdawgnation on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:43AM (#8036333)
Just don't get caught lying on a recording about being a military member. That's a felony. ;)
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by meritt on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:50AM (#8036374)
No, it's not.

I assume you're incorrectly referring to the Stolen Valor Act (of 2013, as the earlier one was struck down for violating the First Amendment). That law specifically handles cases in which someone claims they are a recipient of an award related to combat AND does so with the intent to receive money, property or a tangible benefit.

Simply lying about military service to a Comcast Support Technician is not a crime.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by pbhjpbhj on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @10:12AM (#8036517)
It rather depend where you are. [Yes the assumption here is North America / USA, not sure on Comcast's reach?]

In the UK under Seamen’s and Soldiers’ False Characters Act 1906 Section 1, due to a technicality (excision of restricting terms) any [im]personation of HM Forces' seamen or soldiers is illegal.¹

It's been superseded by the Fraud Act 2006 which is more strict in needing a fraud to be committed viz "he false representation is made dishonestly and with the intention of making a gain".

1 - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Edw7/6/5#commentary-c578...

2 - http://lawcommission.justice.gov.uk/docs/lc308_Statute_Law_R... at page 39 (PDF page 43)

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by nnnnni on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @10:36AM (#8036645)
Getting rid of Comcast would definitely be "making a gain". Ugh.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by farmdawgnation on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @10:59PM (#8040336)
That is the act that I was referring to, and I wasn't aware it was struck down. To the best of my recollection it was specifically targeted at people who lied about service for some personal gain. (However negligible that gain may be.)

Seems I was wrong, though it is kind of hilarious that got 4 downvotes. It was an honest mistake.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by adamkittelson on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:57AM (#8036430)
Comcast doesn't serve Madison, WI in case anyone needs a city for this.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by ripter on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @02:10PM (#8038036)
I just hang up and call again. You'll eventually get someone who doesn't care and will just disconnect you.

I once had a Comcast agent claim that he needed my father's death certificate to cancel my service! (No it was not under his name, it was always under my name.)

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by swombat on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @02:47PM (#8038245)
I once had a Comcast agent claim that he needed my father's death certificate to cancel my service!

Wtf, really? That is simply unconscionable. Are these even people on the end of the line? What kind of worthless piece of shit asks someone for their father's death certificate to cancel a cable service?

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by pavel_lishin on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @03:11PM (#8038373)
That's the instant that you tell them to escalate to their supervisor.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by woogle on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:10AM (#8036177)
What is terrible is you have to LIE. I understand the OP POV. He has the right to disconnects without justify himself.

This is a privacy matter.

The operator acting is barely legal.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by forgottenpass on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:27AM (#8036244)
The operator acting is barely legal.

Still technically legal, bad faith business dealings? For better or worse (worse imo) this is just how businesses currently operate by default.

It's "just business" when you're perpetrating it, and the sky is falling when it happens to you. For a handful of reasons, the powerful (read: monied) are spared the brunt of the ugly end. Comcast is a regional monopoly that sells service to a lot of poor people. Welcome to the retention department.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by thearn4 on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @11:06AM (#8042385)
I agree, I hate the idea of normalizing this kind of behavior.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by lotsofmangos on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:04AM (#8036147)
I've done something similar with phone contracts. I usually tell them that I am going to live in the woods for a year and do some coppicing.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by verisimilitude on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:28AM (#8036250)
Accidentally downvoted you, meant to upvote... sorry about that.

Anyhow: I was actually moving, told Comcast so, and I was indeed off the phone in a few minutes. "I wonder what everyone's concern about Comcast is anyway," I wondered. Then, a few days later, the "follow-up" calls began. It got to the point that I had to block the Comcast number just to get some peace.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by maxerickson on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @10:01AM (#8036453)
It often works to ask to be put on their courtesy do not call list.

Systematically, they don't actually want to spend effort on people that don't want to talk to them and the 'courtesy do not call list' line says 'stop calling me' without inviting an argument.

It's probably more effective if you don't mind talking over their initial spiel.

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by seanflyon on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @01:09PM (#8037653)
I believe they could also be fined up to $16,000 if you put your number on the "do not call" registry and ask them not to call you again.

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0108-national-do-not-ca...

Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by maxerickson on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @01:57PM (#8037955)
I know I'll never follow up on that so I'm more focused on convincing the operator to give up on me with a minimum amount of grief and fuss (on both sides).
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by dminor on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @01:07PM (#8037630)
Or just tell them that Frontier offered you a free pony if you switch. Pretty sure that's not in the script ;)
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by spossy on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @10:48AM (#8036721)
Yep top tip, always say it's because I'm moving country, only way not to get passed to the customer retention department and it's usually processed immediately with no hassle.
Re:Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity En... by e15ctr0n on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @04:34PM (#8038807)
I just stand in line at their customer service center, say I'm closing my account and return the cable box. It's over in a few minutes.