Re:We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting
by Kudos on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @08:50AM
(#7704084)
That's nothing, mine's a 5 digit pin code which they only validate 3 of in a random order (to annoy keyloggers, I assume) plus the last 4 digits of my phone number.
Edit: This feels like the scene where Mel Gibson and Rene Russo compare scars in Lethal Weapon 3.
Re:We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting
by damon_c on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @09:47AM
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"This feels like the scene where Mel Gibson and Rene Russo compare scars in Lethal Weapon 3."
You might also refer to the scene from Jaws(1975) where Hooper and Quint compare scars: http://www.rowthree.com/2011/10/18/finite-focus-competitive-...
Re:We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting
by dave84 on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @08:58AM
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Sounds like AIB. If you use the app they don't even ask for the last 4 digits of your phone number.
Re:We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting
by Kudos on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @10:04AM
(#7704484)
Bingo. I wonder what their brute force protection is like, but I'm not going to go pentesting the login of a company I'm in the same legal jurisdiction as.
Re:We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting
by sp332 on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @10:45AM
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Well if you don't cross state lines, they're less likely to get the FBI involved...
Re:We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting
by Kudos on Wednesday May 07, 2014 @04:36PM
(#7712515)
It's an Irish bank, which means I won't be crossing any state lines ;)
Re:We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting
by maaarghk on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @09:00AM
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Yeah, similarly, Lloyds/HBOS in the UK do allow you to have a master password but you also need to fill out a "memorable information" where you select 3 random characters from a second password. But you don't type them, you select them from a drop down. I can see how this would annoy the most basic of keyloggers but it is also a UX disaster and not suitable for decent loggers. Pisses me off.
Re:We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting
by lfuller on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @09:21AM
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My bank not only allows a maximum of 6 characters, but it truncates all characters beyond 6 when processing the login form. If my password was "passwd", they would accept "passwdjdodw89wawlks".
Re:We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting
by fluidcruft on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @10:39AM
(#7704712)
My bank secretly truncates your password to the first 12 characters. The login form processes all characters. I found this out because I couldn't login after having "successfully" set my password to 32 random characters. Luckily customer support was able to confirm the first 12 characters of the password over the phone.
Fun times were had by all!
Re:We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting
by kleim on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @09:23AM
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My bank uses a 6 digits pin code...
At least you have to enter the code in a virtual numpad that is randomized after each connection on their webpage.
I guess they settled for this measure so it does not annoy their less "tech-savvy" customers. I am baffled to see banks working with such low security practices in general ("admin"-like access on your bank accounts by any employee, checking money transfers AFTER executing it,...).
Re:We'd lose our security certificate if we allowed pasting
by jfoster on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @09:36AM
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One bank that I'm not going to identify is particularly scary. Predictable account number (sequential, I think) + 4 digit PIN. Even if they lock individual accounts after X retries, nothing prevents a well-distributed botnet from gaining access to an account (on average) every 10,000 attempts.
It's unbelievable how bad the password policies of some banks are. Mine doesn't allow special characters, for example. Fortunately it does allow longer passwords at least.