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Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by lyinsteve on Monday April 14, 2014 @08:57AM (#7585830)
Sublime text is really nice, but I can't bring myself to ditching vim for Sublime, even with a nice, keyboard-shortcutted workflow.

Vim is just way too fast for me to leave.

Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by Gracana on Monday April 14, 2014 @09:32AM (#7586005)
I'm in the same boat. ST has neat features, but I'm so comfortable with vim, and even if I switch to ST I will still end up using vim on remote machines. I've tried to make the switch, but it just seems to make my life more difficult.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by ewood on Monday April 14, 2014 @02:51PM (#7588036)
I downloaded Sublime 2 yesterday and gave it a try. I'm a Vim user and I was just interested what else is around. I found it very slow on both OSX and Xubuntu, there are annoying things like the right click menu hanging sometimes, plugins slowing down the entire program, and the folder sidebar not updating when using SSHFS. The whole experience was just too inconsistent for me to drop Vim, even with Vintage mode and the extended plugin it was a poor substitute. I do really like Sublime's mini-map but I doubt that it is enough to get me to switch.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by mkehrt on Monday April 14, 2014 @01:21PM (#7587484)
I find that CommandT (a vim package to emulate Sublime's cmd-t) and getting autocomplete working nicely gets me 95% of the Sublime features I cared about, so I moved back to vim about a month ago after eight months of Sublime.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by apineda on Monday April 14, 2014 @02:09PM (#7587795)
How does autocomplete work in vim? I use vim all the time but have shied away from plugins. I feel they will confuse me and make it difficult to separate native functionality from plugin. With that being said, I also think it's time for me to bite the bullet.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by EC1 on Monday April 14, 2014 @09:51AM (#7586098)
I've always hesitated on VIM because it seems like such a behemoth to learn. Do you have any resources/guides to using/setting up/customizing VIM?
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by adem on Monday April 14, 2014 @10:12AM (#7586234)
The only thing you need to read about Vim to get started is here: http://yannesposito.com/Scratch/en/blog/Learn-Vim-Progressiv..., the rest is learned pretty much by the following principle:

1. Detect inefficiency for a particular task 2. Find a faster way to do it 3. Make it a habit

You can learn more about this approach in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6K4iIMlouI

Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by jsissom on Monday April 14, 2014 @02:59PM (#7588074)
Those are the exact same steps it would take to learn to use Sublime Text!
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by aninhumer on Tuesday April 15, 2014 @03:03AM (#7590668)
Plus you already know half of it because it uses the same shortcuts as every other program in the world.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by EC1 on Monday April 14, 2014 @11:20AM (#7586641)
Awesome thank you very much.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by adem on Monday April 14, 2014 @06:10PM (#7589240)
Now if you really wanna get that extra motivation, I highly recommend you to watch this introduction by Derek Wyatt. For me, a few minutes into the video were enough to stick to all of his videos, truly amazing guy.

vimeo.com/6999927

I hope this is not too off-topic in a ST thread.

Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by EC1 on Tuesday April 15, 2014 @10:40AM (#7592049)
I don't think so. I'll be watching anything you kind people linked me.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by muraiki on Monday April 14, 2014 @11:26AM (#7586685)
I finally began to retain vim knowledge by using vim adventures, a browser-based game that teaches vim commands: http://vim-adventures.com
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by EC1 on Monday April 14, 2014 @01:31PM (#7587545)
This is exactly what I've been looking for!
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by woogley on Monday April 14, 2014 @10:42AM (#7586413)
Run `vimtutor` to whet your appetite, then use vim full-time and enjoy a brief 2 weeks of Googling things every time you get stuck.

Getting functional with vim takes only an afternoon.

Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by EC1 on Monday April 14, 2014 @10:48AM (#7586436)
I've done vimtutor countless times and I still haven't retained any of it haha.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by _dark_matter_ on Monday April 14, 2014 @11:03AM (#7586526)
I think in this case it's more dedication - getting over that initial "hump". Probably worth it; at least for the experience of doing it once.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by jbeja on Monday April 14, 2014 @10:25AM (#7586315)
Same here, try and configured sublime text 3 to my liking but never give me a good reason to leave vim.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by kzisme on Monday April 14, 2014 @09:30AM (#7585985)
How much of a speed difference is It say, going from vim to ST?
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by atom-morgan on Monday April 14, 2014 @08:59AM (#7585842)
Have you ever tried Vim mode in ST?
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by aninhumer on Monday April 14, 2014 @09:22AM (#7585945)
Vintage mode pretty much sucks for any proficient vim user. It implements only a fraction of the commands, and doesn't integrate properly with ST's features. The most obvious flaw for me was that insert mode doesn't record any text generated by ST's completion, so if you try to repeat the action, you get the gibberish you actually typed.

Don't get me wrong. I love ST, and Vintage mode was what convinced me to try it. But ultimately it was far more frustrating to have only half of my muscle memory work in Vintage than it was to just learn the ST way.

Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by atom-morgan on Monday April 14, 2014 @11:38AM (#7586766)
TBH, I agree with everything you said but was hoping that maybe you could convince me otherwise. I guess not. It seems everyone hates ST's vim mode.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by jbeja on Monday April 14, 2014 @10:28AM (#7586329)
It sucks, and Vintageous the new implementation have so many bugs and is pretty much unusable from the first install, also it take some time to load every time i start sublime text.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by doktrin on Monday April 14, 2014 @10:31AM (#7586352)
I stopped using Vintageous as soon as I found myself unable to alias 'jj' to 'esc'.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by hornbaker on Monday April 14, 2014 @02:29PM (#7587908)
This ('kj') works great for me in User Keybindings with ST3 and Vintageous:

  { "keys": ["k", "j"], "command": "_enter_normal_mode", "args": {"mode": "mode_insert"}, "context": [{"key": "vi_insert_mode_aware"}] }
I was a heavy VIM user prior to making the switch to ST2 and then ST3, and haven't really found any vim blockers with ST3/Vintageous.
Re:A Quick Guide to Sublime Text by nuclear_eclipse on Monday April 14, 2014 @06:54PM (#7589379)