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Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by gadders on Thursday August 08, 2013 @12:13PM (#6179843)
Interesting that you don't get high any more. I wondered whether MMJ would fall into the category of "do not drive or operate machinery" whilst using.
Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by gregpilling on Thursday August 08, 2013 @12:47PM (#6180106)
I believe most states have rules that are about "driving under the influence" and the influence could be alcohol, drugs, illness, or basically anything that would alter your mental state. I have had days when the pain alone would make me fail a roadside sobriety test (slurred words, can't walk a straight line). I don't recommend consuming drugs or alcohol and driving, prescription or otherwise.

At work I avoid operating the forklift, milling machine, or anything else that could cause injury to me or my people. I still get a very slight buzz, but nothing at all like when I first started using it (think 5 or 10% of previous effects). I have had times when I consumed what I needed (four or five bowls) when friends were in the same room, and they have gotten high from just being there while I had no change. In general I consume in the very early morning and at night when I know I won't be leaving again before sleep. I avoid using during the day because most days I have to drive and work.

MMJ is certainly not a perfect solution, but it beats constant never ending pain (no drugs) or addiction and liver failure (opiates with acetaminophen) http://www.drugs.com/vicodin.html .

Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by peller on Thursday August 08, 2013 @01:21PM (#6180350)
Once your tolerance has been built up to such high levels, taking a week off (in my experience) is all you need to get a "90% reset."
Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by gadders on Thursday August 08, 2013 @01:10PM (#6180264)
Fair enough. I wonder if the active component that dulls the pain also the one that causes the wooziness. Is it possible to have one without the other? I suppose smoking the raw leaf is a pretty blunt delivery mechanism vs putting the active compounds in a patch or a pill.
Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by apalmer on Thursday August 08, 2013 @12:18PM (#6179880)
Definitely would fall into the impairs motor skills category. You can develop a tolerance for almost all drugs, even alcohol and yet many still fall within that category so wouldnt expect ganja to be any different.
Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by mistercow on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:19PM (#6181130)
>You can develop a tolerance for almost all drugs

That seems to be the common wisdom, but is there any evidence that that's true?

Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by mratzloff on Thursday August 08, 2013 @12:24PM (#6179923)
It does. In Washington state, where it is legal, the initiative that made it so made a provision to amend DWI laws to include THC thresholds.
Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by nnash on Thursday August 08, 2013 @12:38PM (#6180033)
>Interesting that you don't get high any more.

At 5 joints a day OP probably has built up a pretty high resistance to THC. Speak to enough every-day smokers and you'll find they go on breaks every once in a while to address this.

>I wondered whether MMJ would fall into the category of "do not drive or operate machinery" whilst using.

Depends on the strain, if you're smoking Indicas then yes you should not operate machinery.

Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by pdeuchler on Thursday August 08, 2013 @12:52PM (#6180134)
This is a really good article (despite it's admittedly biased source) on driving while under the influence of marijuana:

http://norml.org/library/item/cannabis-and-driving-a-scienti...

It's also important to note the most dangerous thing you can do, bar none, is to drive tired and unfocused. Which is very much legal.

Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by criley2 on Thursday August 08, 2013 @01:50PM (#6180583)
Not the most dangerous thing.

Try driving on LSD. While drunk. And high on xanax. While shooting heroin.

Obviously, there are more dangerous states to drive in than tired and unfocused...

Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by ledge on Thursday August 08, 2013 @02:36PM (#6180870)
I would rather drive on LSD than drive tired, no question.
Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by sliverstorm on Thursday August 08, 2013 @03:12PM (#6181079)
Can't LSD cause you to hallucinate? Hallucinations seem like the #1 thing you wouldn't want to happen to you while you are driving.
Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by ledge on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:17PM (#6181588)
Not really in the conventional way people think of hallucinations.

What you see is distorted, but everything you see is actually there. The walls might look like they're dripping or wavy, the branches on a tree appear to reach out at you, and colors become more vibrant, but you won't ever see gigantic bunnies or flying unicorns or some other stupid shit that often ends up in film depictions of a psychedelic experience.

As dosage increases, your mind increasingly tends to interpret what you're seeing as something else, like a shadow may appear briefly to be a person. When this starts to happen I would no longer feel comfortable driving, but for me this occurs at the peak of 500 ug + experiences, the equivalent of 5 standard doses. Not saying that driving on LSD is a great idea, but on a single standard dose it's not nearly as dangerous as driving after you've pulled an all-nighter IMO.

Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by redwood on Thursday August 08, 2013 @06:47PM (#6182511)
You and I both know it's all about dose :)
Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by ejfox on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:15PM (#6181568)
As a human, you are more able to handle hallucinations than you think. If you see a bear off in the distance, in real life do you freak out and drive off the road? No. You just remark at it. "Holy shit a bear in the distance!"

When you're on acid, you don't change as a person, your reactions don't change. If you see something weird you say "woah, that's weird" but, unless you're deep in a trip and forget you are on a substance, you can usually handle it like a normal person.

Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by thepurplemonk on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:30PM (#6181673)
In my experience, one dose of acid will make you see things, but not things that aren't there. More like interesting patterns in clouds. You can clearly distinguish what's real and what's not. That being said, I'd rather not drive, but could imagine doing so.
Re:Why I Changed My Mind On Weed by Zigurd on Thursday August 08, 2013 @01:38PM (#6180485)
A 1998 Olympic gold medalist in snowboarding was stripped of his medal for testing positive for marijuana. Then someone at the IOC thought better of trying to call marijuana a performance enhancing drug.