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Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by tptacek on Sunday August 04, 2013 @11:59PM (#6158359)
I'm curious where the model cutoff would be for "luxury" BMWs. They're all luxury cars, from what I can tell.
Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by buro9 on Monday August 05, 2013 @02:09AM (#6158692)
According to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_classification it's less cost than the size and purpose of the vehicle.

Only the 7-series is unambiguously luxury. Which aligns with my European view that a 3-series is your bog standard "large family car" or "small executive car".

Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by marssaxman on Monday August 05, 2013 @08:00PM (#6164008)
3-series is seen as a compact sports car here in the USA.
Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by buro9 on Thursday August 08, 2013 @08:34AM (#6178467)
Sounds more like the M labelled cars, much like Benz's AMG range.

Is the non-M 3-series considered sports?

Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by lazyjones on Monday August 05, 2013 @05:14AM (#6159113)
> BMWs. They're all luxury cars, from what I can tell.

BMW 5 series are the most-purchased company cars here in Austria, they certainly aren't luxury cars anywhere outside the 3rd world, although they might enjoy a certain brand image in the US ...

Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by eitally on Monday August 05, 2013 @05:53AM (#6159225)
The difference is that in the US, neither BMW nor M-B market stripper versions of their cars. In order to buy a 5 series or E Class you will end up with at least a 528 (with significant number of interior luxury features) or an E350. Both of them start at about US$50k, and to me that is squarely luxury. Interestingly, well over half of all of them are leased, not purchased.
Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by lazyjones on Monday August 05, 2013 @06:43AM (#6159367)
The cheapest BMW 5 series model here in Austria sells for EUR 41900 (USD 55620) including taxes (MSRP).

BMW is an expensive brand, but the 5 series is mid-range.

Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by justin66 on Monday August 05, 2013 @08:15AM (#6159638)
The way things are defined in the US, the BMW 5 series is a luxury car. It represents close to the maximum amount of amenities for a given size class and, well, the car magazines call it a luxury car. There's not much else to it...

It's certainly possible they're equipped differently here, as so many cars are. If that's not the case and Austrians simply have a different sense of "luxury car" I wonder what you guys have that trumps the 5 series in that size category, as far as "luxury" is concerned.

Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by tptacek on Monday August 05, 2013 @10:43AM (#6160378)
A 55k sedan isn't "mid-range"!
Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by twoodfin on Monday August 05, 2013 @12:05AM (#6158391)
It's debatable whether you'd call a Mini a "luxury car". They're certainly priced like they are!
Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by sk5t on Monday August 05, 2013 @01:27AM (#6158619)
Minis are often sold alongside BMWs but they are not branded BMWs. Otherwise... is a Bentley a Volkswagen, or vice versa?
Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by thrownaway2424 on Monday August 05, 2013 @12:07AM (#6158401)
For the purpose of this headline, "luxury" appears to have been defined as "expensive".
Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by derefr on Monday August 05, 2013 @12:21AM (#6158446)
I bet there is an objective criteria for it, though (if not a very clear one).

A thought-experiment: say you wreck your car, and your insurance provider is going to give you a loaner.

They want this loaner car to impress you (the cost of one regular car, however nice, is not much skin off their back, especially if they get to amortize it over all the people they lend it out to; and they want to give you the impression that they've got enough money to cover any problem you might have, so that you'll keep paying your premiums--the same reason bank lobbies look so "stately.")

However, they don't want to spend too much, because there's a point where cars switch from regular goods, to being Veblen goods. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good)

The optimum between impressing you the most, and avoiding spending way more than the car "should" be worth for an any marginal gain of impressiveness, should define the type of car they loan out (and it does, in my experience.) You can draw the "luxury" inflection point as being exactly the next-most-expensive models up from these, where the value proposition stops making sense to economically-rational actors.

Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by twoodfin on Monday August 05, 2013 @12:10AM (#6158408)
Where "expensive" was defined as "at least as expensive as a Model S".
Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by alixr on Monday August 05, 2013 @12:12AM (#6158412)
While most BMW's are expensive, I would consider the 7-series line "luxury".
Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by varjag on Monday August 05, 2013 @05:36AM (#6159181)
Most of the cabs where I live are Mercedes. I had three different cars in the driving school: two BMW 318 (petrol and diesel) and a Merc E270.

I would hesitate calling those luxury vehicles, if only based on their ubiquitous use by working professionals.

Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by soperj on Monday August 05, 2013 @12:05AM (#6158392)
BMW makes vehicles other than cars(SUV, Motorcycle..)
Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by corford on Monday August 05, 2013 @07:33AM (#6159514)
I wouldn't call a 1 series luxury?
Re:Tesla Nabs 8% of the U.S. Luxury Car Market by mrkurt on Monday August 05, 2013 @12:04AM (#6158388)
Everything above a Mini.