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Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by mikewarot on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:11PM (#50490698)
I'm watching it live on ADSBexhange, here's a flight that'll land in Detroit about an hour from now... there's not much left over the US over 40,000 feet.

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a519b8

It's Delta Airlines flight 1070

https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL1070

Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by EvanAnderson on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:14PM (#50490747)
I'm watching ADSBexchange too.

It's eerie seeing the total number of aircraft tracked decrease. I put on a filter for 1000' to 80000', to exclude aircraft on the ground, and the number was around 12K when I started watching. It's down to just over 9.4K now. Wild.

Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by kogasa240p on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:53PM (#50491276)
Now under 8k
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by aschla on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:18PM (#50490801)
To be fair, above 40AGL is relatively high for most airliners. Most are between 30 and 40.
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by rogerrogerr on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:21PM (#50490858)
FL400. 40 AGL is doable for almost all airliners ;)
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by aschla on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:26PM (#50490920)
Thanks. Meant to slap a k on that 40.
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by lisper on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:55PM (#50491310)
Actually that would be quite challenging over most terrain.
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by erickhill on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:26PM (#50490921)
Absolutely tons between 10K-20k, though.
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by _heimdall on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:34PM (#50491027)
This tracks with what I has seem elsewhere. I don't have the details handy now, but the communication system used for long range handoffs for flights above 18,000 ft seems to be what is impacted. Keeping planes below that deck would keep them bouncing more frequently between shorter range towers but at least still tracked and in communication.
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by sokoloff on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:38PM (#50491092)
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Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by EvanAnderson on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:42PM (#50491136)
My view on ADSBexchange is centered on CMH, zoomed out to Washington D.C. to the east, and filtered by 18K up I've got 142 aircraft.
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by hoherd on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:41PM (#50491134)
I'm also near Detroit and am watching the trackers and I'm pretty sure I just saw N831AK take off from Troy Oakland in violation of the grounding order. I wonder how common that is.
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by cebert on Friday November 13, 2026 @06:11PM (#50491490)
I live in the general area of you too. Nice to know that there are Detroiters on here.
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by cookingmyserver on Friday November 13, 2026 @06:03PM (#50491388)
Looks like some flights are taking off from JFK https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=4cc58a
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by NoFingerprints on Friday November 13, 2026 @06:18PM (#50491550)
It could be the flights that are heading directly away from US airspace over the atlantic to free airport space for other planes?