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Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by CodingJeebus on Monday November 09, 2026 @04:59PM (#50432858)
USPS is in really rough shape, budget-wise, to the degree that they needed an emergency cash infusion earlier this year (I highly recommend reading up on it, it's a bad situation). Sadly, it's not that surprising to see that they're charging commercial rates for this service.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by 0cf8612b2e1e on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:17PM (#50433066)
That’s not an accident. Congress made it a requirement that the USPS pre fund their pension plans, decades in advance. The only government institute required to do such a thing.

It is great for governments to run responsible budgets, but this was such a unique constraint, it seems designed to strangle the USPS.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by LanceH on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:22PM (#50433117)
> pre fund their pension plans, decades in advance

Which is to say "fund their pension plans."

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by underlipton on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:46PM (#50433393)
This is more like barring you from kindergarten if you don't start paying your college tuition.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by LanceH on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @10:48PM (#50462844)
Everyone talks about funding "for 75 years" like they have to have $100k per person per year for the upcoming 75 year, like it's a stack of cash the recipient will be paid from.

It is my understand 75 years is the horizon beyond which no current worker's liability will cost anything. And the difference between 74 and 75 years funding is tiny compared to the difference between 1 and 2 years.

Everyone saying it's not fair because these "defined benefits" plans aren't required of the rest of the government seem to come down on the side that this is a good thing. It's really just an obligation for future taxes to make payments in lieu of current revenue to fund plans equal to the liabilities incurred today.

Saying something like this handicaps the USPS really means they should be able to freely obligate the taxpayer to future payments based on what they do today.

Funding liabilities as they are incurred is the proper thing to do, regardless of whether it is the USPS or some other aspect of the government. Pay as you go is insanity. Defining outcomes through legislation doesn't make it so.

Whether this is to handicap the USPS or not is entirely orthogonal to the issue of actually paying for the promises being made, rather than promising that someone in the future will pay for it.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by bragr on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:48PM (#50433416)
I know of no other pension plan that has to prefund 75 years of projected pension liabilities.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by lotsofpulp on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:19PM (#50433781)
PAEA 2007 required funding of accrued liabilities for the USPS, same as PPA 2006. However, other governments in the US are not required to fund any liabilities for post employment benefits, at all.

https://www.congress.gov/109/plaws/publ435/PLAW-109publ435.p...

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by KerrAvon on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:33PM (#50433906)
Yup.

https://ips-dc.org/how-congress-manufactured-a-postal-crisis...

> The Trump Task Force acknowledged that without the costs imposed by the Post-Retirement Health Care Mandate, USPS would today be profitable on an operating basis.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by throwaway27448 on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:09PM (#50433673)
Who knew republicans loved big government so much
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by Geezus_42 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @02:20AM (#50437111)
Anyone living in a red state who isn't blinded by party loyalty.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by wavemode on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:49PM (#50434081)
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Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by kccqzy on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:54PM (#50434122)
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Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by mepiethree on Monday November 09, 2026 @08:36PM (#50434984)
Congress only passes like 100 laws a year now and most of them are useless
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by boelboel on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:19PM (#50434379)
It really helped Amazon as USPS had to provide certain services to them at the time.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by Kevin_Flynn on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:54AM (#50441240)
Yeah.

I missed the announcement where they were opening the subsidized parcel delivery to all businesses, not just ones owned by people with the last name of Bezos that start with an A and end with an N.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by labcomputer on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:22PM (#50434412)
Nah, they're not trying to strangle the USPS. They're trying to fatten it up for privatization.

If you fully fund the pensions before privatization, you can simultaneously claim that privatization is necessary (look! they're running out of money!) and radically reduce costs once you do privatize (all the pensions are pre-paid, so you can stop contributing to the fund and extract profits for a few decades before you have problems).

This zip code subscription is part of the same plan: Get people used to paying for data from the USPS so it has an additional income stream after privatization.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by NavinF on Monday November 09, 2026 @10:12PM (#50435618)
(xpost)

"Contrary to statements made by some employee groups and other stakeholders, PAEA did not require USPS to prefund 75 years of retiree health benefits" https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-13-112.pdf

Also the 2022 Postal Service Reform Act eliminated the prefunding and ~$57 billion of overdue payments, but USPS finances were still dogshit afterwards: USPS revenue was $80 billion and expenses were $89 billion in FY2024

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by coryrc on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:30PM (#50433217)
Due to Baumol's Cost Disease and email, it doesn't make sense to be paying labor to drop off junk mail every single weekday. Cutting this by 2/days a week in urban areas and by 3 days/week in rural would save incredible amounts.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by underlipton on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:47PM (#50433402)
I'm sure Amazon would love that. Need to overnight a letter? Guess you're stuck with FedEx or UPS.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by coryrc on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:15AM (#50436708)
I've never needed to do that. We have email.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by snowwrestler on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:27PM (#50433846)
The U.S. Postal Service doesn’t make financial sense because it is fundamentally not a financial idea. Like other aspects of Constitutional U.S. governance, its purpose is to stitch a people together into a nation.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by maxerickson on Monday November 09, 2026 @09:08PM (#50435205)
Your argument rests on a pretty narrow definition of "financial sense".

Like when you buy food you like instead of the cheapest calories, this can make financial sense, because you value the preferred food more than the additional cost.

At around $20 a household projected loss for 2027, you wouldn't have to try very hard to do better than dismissing discussion of the value it does or doesn't bring.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by mattmcknight on Monday November 09, 2026 @10:49PM (#50435821)
It's current function is to deliver garbage to me disguised as useful information. Almost all of it goes into the trash before I bring it inside.

It doesn't make financial sense because Congress has capped how much the garbage manufacturers have to pay.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by snowwrestler on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:42AM (#50441092)
Unwanted advertising is hardly a unique failing of the U.S. Postal System.