"Don't post generated text or AI-edited text. HN is for conversation between humans."

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Maybe it's supposed to be ironic?

Somebody should start an "exceeds authorized access" computer fraud and abuse case prosecution over this. Perhaps the new Texas state attorney general.

Any time I’ve opened Gemini it’s given me a full screen “do you want to allow connected apps” popup and I click no every single time.

It’s not clear what clicking yes does. Is it my entire drive and Gmail? Do I have to give permission per-file/folder/email?

So I click no. And it just gives me the popup again later

It allows Gemini to autonomously search anything in your Drive or email. If it deems it relevant to the conversation, Gemini can pull summaries, snippets, or even the file plaintext of the file into the context window, making it eligible for human review.

This seems extraordinarily not wise.

Don't worry, it's safe because they also send your personal files to be inspected by extremely poorly paid human reviewers who will definitely keep your bitcoin keys safe for you.

Corporate Harassment

> No > Ask me every 5 minutes

It should be illegal and the tech companies using these patterns should incur massive fines. Do it retroactively. Screw the assholes that think it’s acceptable.

Wasn't a free market and competition supposed to take care of these problems?

It seems like as things get more advanced, you don't really have alternatives, and companies can get away with things knowing you don't have much choice.

google is a monopoly

So no other giant companies offer free email? Outlook?

"The best product on the market that everyone wants to use" is not remotely the same as a monopoly.

These comments are insane.

Just use uBlock Origin and select the popup with the element picker to remove it forever

Even worse because Gemini app also show this popup.

Then don’t use the Gemini app. Refuse to engage with the bullshit.

Instead, the people publishing these types of routines should be named publicly, so that those dealing with them on a daily basis can spit in their mouth.

Genuinely, name the product managers and whichever dogshit svp is asking for this

bet you gemini would tell us who it is too

I asked it what leader was likely responsible for the decision and it told me.

I won't share that information, because I'm a decent human being and an adult. That said... yikes.

No one is forcing you to use Gemini. If you don't like it don't use it.

How many years on are we with dark patterns and nagware?

It hasn’t been that simple for a very long time.

No one is forcing you to read comments. If you don't like them don't read them.

Spend less time on reddit.

Okay I’ll just pretend to not use any of the gazillion tools and products that tries to coerce me into a deal against my informed consent. Surely I’ll beat the system.

> It’s not clear

It's really embarrassing that Google does these things, its even more embarassing that their UI / UX is just really awful and all over the place. I've never been in the shoes of having to push a dark pattern into production, but I can't help but feel I'd start looking to work literally anywhere else.

You have to remember that Google is first and foremost a data company. I don't want to sound conspiratorial but every misclick or misunderstood permission window does give Google more data which means more money.

Sure, but its just annoying. Remember the employees came up with the "Don't be evil" slogan, which wasn't even official, but I'm sure people working here patted themselves on the back over it, well, this is all evil.

Yep true. But I've learned to stop worrying about it long ago. A corporation's gonna corpo. Best we can do is avoid using their services and work on better open source alternatives.

yet they cannot give the simplest thing back, like letting me set the goddamn language for the tool instead of assuming based on location

Yes, but many data company lure just giving up data by providing reasonably good service. Google is just doing the bare minimal shitiest service.

Google (especially Android) is one giant dark pattern.

This all to me sounds like a serious class-action lawsuit.

I wonder what the various EU information commissioners responsible for GDPR think.

only leetcode brainlets left at that company lmao