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Re:Claude Fable 5.2 and Mythos 5.2 by pookieinc on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:14PM (#50430228)
“Testers have found that Fable 5.2 and Mythos 5.2 communicate more clearly than past Fable and Mythos models. They generate outputs up to 30% faster than Claude Fable 5.1 and Claude Mythos 5.1, and they’re available at a lower price: $8 per million input tokens and $40 per million output tokens.”

Honestly incredible that they’ve managed to beat all benchmarks, while making it cheaper. Always happy to see improvements offered at lower costs.

Will be interesting to see what OpenAI does in response

Re:Claude Fable 5.2 and Mythos 5.2 by privacyishuman on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:15PM (#50430247)
They still need a response to Opus 5.5
Re:Claude Fable 5.2 and Mythos 5.2 by alasano on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:22PM (#50430356)
It's really true.

I think frontier models feel terrible after a new model requires you to do less babysitting, it's just really hard to go back once you've had to handhold less.

The only way I use Astra and 6.1 Sol now is if they're being orchestrated by Opus 5.5 so I don't have to talk to them directly.

Re:Claude Fable 5.2 and Mythos 5.2 by sunaookami on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:32PM (#50430559)
GPT-6.1-Sol is so incredibly sloppy and dumb, it's embarassing.
Re:Claude Fable 5.2 and Mythos 5.2 by LeBit on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:42PM (#50430773)
Maybe because it is so cheap.

They want to condition you to equal cheap with bad

Re:Claude Fable 5.2 and Mythos 5.2 by nsingh2 on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:50PM (#50430904)
It seems like OAI, with the GPT-6 models, focused a lot more on computer use, math, and maybe spatial/visual intelligence, more so that code. Compared to Ant. that seem to focus on code much more.

Reminds me of GPT-5, smart but wrote crap code, until they improved the code training with 5.3 and 5.4.

Re:Claude Fable 5.2 and Mythos 5.2 by oh_no on Monday November 09, 2026 @04:38PM (#50432600)
the winning benchmark is much more expensive than what it cost for the same on 5.1

i'm begging people to stop looking at token prices