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Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by _qua on Monday November 09, 2026 @01:47PM (#50429761)
National health reports cannot fix deep-seated cultural issues. I'm sure they'll come out with a nice report on strategies to improve men's wellbeing that won't make a lick of difference unless the world at large starts to shift.
Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by lakeviewterrace on Monday November 09, 2026 @01:59PM (#50429965)
"Not enough of our newly arrived immigrants are visiting our shrinks! Send more butter tarts!"
Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by lostlogin on Monday November 09, 2026 @01:59PM (#50429971)
So it shouldn’t be reported on?
Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by harimau777 on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:13PM (#50430208)
Can you expand on this? It seems to me that deep seated cultural issues are the sort of thing that therapy is supposed to address. However, I may be looking at this from the wrong angle.
Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by Exoristos on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:29PM (#50430494)
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Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by doright on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:43PM (#50430788)
The people who see issues with themselves get therapy. The ones that see no issues with themselves don't.

That is what "deep-seated cultural issues" means. Some subset of the population aren't seeing a problem with their own behavior. They see nothing that needs addressing. The rest have to learn how to put up with or avoid them.

Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by asdfman123 on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:16PM (#50430263)
Government reports like this sometimes motivate additional studies and think pieces, which in turn creates a framing that may be used later when society decides it's truly ready for change.

So no, they can't change the world, but sometimes they can plant a seed.

Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by bragh on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:45PM (#50430820)
This all is just pure virtue signaling and the only beneficiary will be some NGO who gets some money and produces a report and a slide deck which only they will read. It's like the Soviet joke of "we had a 4 hour meeting about improving production in communism in the factory today and after this we will work not better and not worse than before". Until that suffering actually causes measurable damage that affects something on a grand scale that the country needs, nothing really will happen.
Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by pojzon on Monday November 09, 2026 @03:58PM (#50432029)
We live in a world that desperately needs drastic measures to change it.

But we live too comfortably for anyone to take those actions.

Like a boiling frog, ppl will wake up when its too late.

Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by malfist on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:28PM (#50430484)
Isn't recognizing there is a problem the first step on fixing the problem?
Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by nonethewiser on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:50PM (#50430908)
The report gives no indication its a male problem. It’s just a survey targeting men. Maybe its a general mental health problem. We know mental health issues in women have increased over the same time period.
Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by malfist on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:55PM (#50430979)
Okay? What's your point? That the report didn't find every problem, it just found one problem?
Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by nonethewiser on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:57PM (#50431028)
The claim is its a MALE mental health problem. Where is the evidence?
Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by malfist on Monday November 09, 2026 @03:03PM (#50431122)
This report? The existence of a male mental health problem does not imply the existence or absence of a female mental health problem or any other type if mental health problem.
Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by nonethewiser on Monday November 09, 2026 @03:28PM (#50431553)
>The existence of a male mental health

Maybe you can you disambiguate your phrasing here. Which do you mean?

1.There is a MALE mental health problem -- some mental health problem wholly or partially unique to men

2. There is a mental health problem observed among men

If #1, where is the evidence? A men-only survey cannot show it. If you surveyed left-handed people and 30% had anxiety, that doens't mean there is a left-handed anxiety problem.

If #2, we agree on what the research shows, but it brings your original point into question: "Isn't recognizing there is a problem the first step on fixing the problem?" Which problem are we recognizing? Labeling a general problem a male one is a guess at the diagnosis, and it points the search for causes and fixes at men when nothing in this report says that’s where they are, and other available information shows worsening mental health in women.

Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by redanddead on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:53PM (#50430956)
> National health reports cannot fix deep-seated cultural issues

It starts with an objective report on reality

Re:Too many men suffering in silence, national health report... by icantevenhold on Monday November 09, 2026 @04:06PM (#50432131)
This report is not an objective report on reality however (if such a thing is even possible when it comes to culture / psychology)