I look forward to human curation to be reinvented in some way. Social media algos are a tyranny. I think something new will be driven by people's desire to be different and niche.

That’ll just have to be 100% analog, and that’s until Physical AI has a massive breakthrough where they’ll make the analog also possible to be automated away.

It’s not over… “OVER” but it’s sure feeling that we are heading there, though.

Be the curator yourself, browse the small web.

Browsing the small web is not that simple right now. Even if tools such as Marginalia help, it's still quite difficult for discoverability.

help us, Google!

There is, something like that all over the internet. But it's not on any popular website or platform. Barely anyone knows about those places. And they're better that way.

I won't post a link here, but check out KamTape.

That's the thing about human intervention: It can't be hyperscale. I think that's a feature, but until we as a society come to the conclusion that not every aspect of life has to be the biggest and the only, we're not going to get there.

about the not-hyper aspect: aren't you assuming some technical factors? for instance, if you assume a central mechanism capable of conducting a realtime ad auction, then yes, going hyperscale is resource-consuming.

without assuming such centralization, we end up with more distributed, even async networks. I'm not sure such a network would even need to be mainly supported by permanent hosts (like mastodon is). It could use more torrent-like ad-hoc mechanisms.

They'll reinvent it but possibly not in the way you like. See Altman's Worldcoin for example.

In the end there's no foolproof way, so we'll just have to converge on the idea that quality is what matters.

Good AI contributions are better than lazy crap or trolling from humans, right?

Right. And I consider it a blessing that Claude-speak and GPT-speak continue to be so obvious :)

But who's going to filter out the good AI contributions from the bad AI trolls and bargain-bin-model slop?

With AI there is an infinite stream of contributions to curate. No human is ever going to volunteer for that, so unless you keep AI contributions very tightly restricted you'll rapidly lose all human contributors. At which point nobody is left to ensure only good contributions get in, so it is only a matter of time before it devolves into a giant pile of crap.

Besides, who's going to pay to run those AIs? Good models aren't free, so you are effectively turning it into a pay-to-win project. You can be absolutely certain that some tech billionaires are going to burn a few million to have "good AI" constantly rewrite their pages the way they want it.

> Good AI contributions are better than lazy crap or trolling from humans, right?

but worse than no contributions at all

> we'll just have to converge on the idea that quality is what matters.

for me it is not changed at all, just that volume of spam increased and it is now harder to detect

You've discovered some sentient non humans have you?

You don't have to be sentient to post on the internet.

We need a dev voucher system. Persist it across projects and time. Belonging to a vouching chain with a rogue dev down the chain loses you points the closer you are to it. Anything else is just too unreliable imo.

If anyone remembers advogato.org it was a web of trust of open source devs.

PGP web of trust?

and what do points win?