No longer...

Is it higher now?

And there has been 31% cumulative inflation since the cybertruck launched, so perhaps I should have said if it had been a $49,000 truck. But either way, it’s clearly a luxury vehicle that was disproportionately affected by interest rates.

> it’s clearly a luxury vehicle that was disproportionately affected by interest rates

It's an electric vehicle sold by a racist, fascist, trillionaire Trump supporter. The Venn diagram of people who want an electric vehicle and who want to give Musk even more money is vanishingly small. My next vehicle will be an electric SUV, and I'm never touching a Tesla.

I'm not so sure -- I live in Southern California in a very liberal area, and there are a huge number new teslas that would have been bought after Musk's political adventures, far more than any other EV brand. A fair number of cyber trucks too, but much less than other tesla models.

I also wouldn't take southern cali as representative of the US though. It is one of the most expensive places in the nation with a very high income where most people can completely ignore politics and the world around them because of the higher wealth floor. Im sure you can also find tons of people with $1500 phones and 5090s just for their gaming PC, but elsewhere in the nation you won't see so many.

The median wage in S.Cali is literally double the median wage of the midwest, but they don't pay twice as much for their cars or consumer goods.

Even in Southern Cali you’ll get voting at 40% red normally. I’ve only seen pockets go lower. Even at 20% that’s still two out of every ten folks on the road.

I would expect that most liberals support Musk, or at least don't shun him - it's the left who hates him.

don't forget pedophile and rapist and responsible for 14 million deaths

It is excellent that you are exercising your freedom of association, it is a vital right. I still suspect your reason for avoiding this car had a relatively small effect on its failure, while the price had a huge effect.

Don't forget design; even had this been a readily affordable work truck it got passed over for purchase by many rural truck savvy workers for pragmatic reasons - the back tray and lid aren't especially practical in the field for many and it's not a vehicle built to easily modify for purpose.

I disagree. The cybertruck, more than any other automobile that I can think of in history outside of the Volkswagen Bug, has been associated with one specific worldview and political party. If you see someone driving a cybertruck, you know with a 99.9% certainty that they aren't politically progressive. That association, as much as it kinda being a weird, undesirable tweener of an automobile with way too many weaknesses, is to blame for its sales being so poor. No upper middle class or wealthier, liberal person that I know would be caught dead owning one.

Do you know what the median price is?

I'm unable to find published numbers on median price. Kneejerk, a median price 15% lower than avg still gives us a $55,000 truck.

That said, these numbers DO exclude luxury pickups like the Denali, King Ranch … which would send the average even higher.

That's taking into account farm purchases though, which have a unique shape of "a new truck at any price" in good years zeroing out profits.

I think median, agriculture-excluded would be more representative.

Granted, that's still pushed up by loaded in-town trophy trucks without a spot of mud on them.

I think what you're saying is there's likely a significant number of "cheapest possible truck" purchases in this data that means the median price is actually _higher_ than the average - the median is dragged down by cheap farm trucks. Given that this $65k figure already excludes luxury trucks, that might be the case.

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