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Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by misiti3780 on Friday November 06, 2026 @01:00PM (#50395879)
Trump did that, not Elon. The president is the only one with the power to cut that aid. Sure, he was the "face" of it but Trump signed the EOs
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by afavour on Friday November 06, 2026 @01:23PM (#50396189)
Elon proposed it and implemented it. Yes, Trump signed off on it but by that logic no one in the Trump administration is guilty of anything other than Trump himself, which we all know is not true.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by UltraSane on Friday November 06, 2026 @01:46PM (#50396554)
Elon actually bragged about destroying USAID on Twitter.

"We spent the weekend feeding USAID into the wood chipper. Could gone to some great parties. Did that instead."

This is the richest man in the world being GLEEFUL abut destroying an organization that helps the poorest people in the world. Musk is basically Ebeneezer Scrooge.

In an interview when asked about it he insisted their was vast amounts of fraud in USAID.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886307316804263979?lang=en

Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by throwitaway222 on Friday November 06, 2026 @03:05PM (#50397650)
MrBeast did more for people in Africa than USAID ever did. The only thing USAID tents were used for was filming ISIS videos.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by archagon on Friday November 06, 2026 @04:04PM (#50398522)
Liar.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by scottyah on Friday November 06, 2026 @03:38PM (#50398159)
USAID was a pretty evil organization that was founded and used to bribe warring organizations under the guise of humanitarianism.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by archagon on Friday November 06, 2026 @03:56PM (#50398415)
Whatever USAID is guilty of, it is indisputable that thousands of people died from aid being suddenly cut off without a tapering period. You can find many news articles talking to people on the ground that confirm this.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by UltraSane on Friday November 06, 2026 @04:30PM (#50398789)
What does "bribe warring organizations " even mean?
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by MisterMower on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:19PM (#50401023)
The money was ostensibly used for noble purposes but usually ended up funding unsavory characters or organizations that are actually at cross purposes with stated US goals. A lot of humanitarian aid we send to the Middle Eastfor example, ends up in the hands of terrorists.[1]

1. https://oig.usaid.gov/node/7283

Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by defrost on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:26PM (#50401057)
> A lot of humanitarian aid ... ends up in the hands of terrorists.

Which you "prove" by linking to a story how $9 million was "diverted" (although the person responsible was caught and charged) out of a total of $12 billion.

That's 9 parts of 12 thousand or 0.075% that you are describing as "a lot".

Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by MisterMower on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:51PM (#50401161)
If you think that is the only instance of fraud you are deluding yourself.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by defrost on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:59PM (#50401212)
It's your story - it's up to you to demonstrate the scale of loss.

So far all you have demonstrated is that US AID loses less aid money than CBH loses in grain to parrots each year.

If you think think that millions of tonnes of grain should be not transported because less than 1% is eaten by parrots then you're committed to starving millions of food.

Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by UltraSane on Friday November 06, 2026 @10:52PM (#50401469)
Please provide more examples.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by MisterMower on Sunday November 08, 2026 @01:47AM (#50410992)
Here you go, from a five second Google search: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/usaid-official-and-three-corp...

There are others but I suspect there is no quantity or quality of examples that would change your mind.

Keep in mind that the fraud that is discovered and prosecuted is usually only a small fraction of what actually exists.

Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by UltraSane on Sunday November 08, 2026 @03:19AM (#50411369)
Evidence from the same corrupt administration that illegally destroyed USAID is not valid.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by MisterMower on Sunday November 08, 2026 @09:13AM (#50413539)
Thank you for confirming my suspicion that no evidence can convince you.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by UltraSane on Sunday November 08, 2026 @04:58PM (#50417780)
Valid Evidence can convince me but I've seen first hand that the Trump administration gleefully and shamelessly lies.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by MisterMower on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:29PM (#50418112)
All politicians lie. They also tell the truth when it’s convenient and serves their political goals.

What makes you think this is the Trump administration lying about fraud versus them shining a light on actually fraudulent organization that you believe was doing a good job?

You tell me: what kind of Valid Evidence would convince you one way or the other?

Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by UltraSane on Sunday November 08, 2026 @11:20PM (#50421030)
"All politicians lie." This is a stupid thought terminating cliche Trump supporters endlessly repeat because in fact Trump lies far more than any politician I have ever seen in my 49 years of life. He lies so much I'm not even sure he can tell the difference between his lies and reality.

"What makes you think this is the Trump administration lying about fraud"

Because they lie constantly about absolutely everything.

"what kind of Valid Evidence would convince you one way or the other?"

Evidence that comes from people not involved with destroying USAID.

Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by scottyah on Saturday November 07, 2026 @04:16PM (#50408149)
It was formed during the cold war to mingle in the proxy wars. We sent guns to the militias, and basically bribed towns and villages (by selective donations) to come to the USA's side. It's basically a mechanism to pay off warlord bribe demands.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by UltraSane on Saturday November 07, 2026 @07:16PM (#50409334)
It had the side effect of preventing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people from starvation and disease
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by MisterMower on Sunday November 08, 2026 @02:11AM (#50411092)
Alternatively, it had the effect of impoverishing those same people by destroying any incentive to figure out how to produce their own food.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by UltraSane on Sunday November 08, 2026 @03:18AM (#50411364)
This is extremely stupid reasoning.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by UltraSane on Sunday November 08, 2026 @03:21AM (#50411372)
USAID did that also
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by sirtaj on Sunday November 08, 2026 @01:27AM (#50410911)
It was definitely a mixed blessing, but I had a close relative (a local, not an American) who worked with them in some poor countries for some years. The verdict was, yes, it's pretty clearly a CIA front, but they also did some real and serious humanitarian work.
Re:Tesla winds down Cybertruck production after years of poo... by archagon on Friday November 06, 2026 @03:54PM (#50398387)
The man who fires the gun is just as culpable as the man who makes the plan. And boy, did Musk enjoy playing the executioner! He acted with gleeful, reckless abandon and gloated about “taking a chainsaw” to USAID. And as I recall, they only shoved Rubio in front of the cameras after Musk's illegal rampage already happened, as a sort of fig leaf.