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Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents on S3

https://github.com/rivet-dev/rivet

Hey HN, this is Nathan and Nicholas from Rivet (https://rivet.dev).

Rivet is a fast, high-density, and scalable orchestrator for agentic workloads using the actor model. Rather than running a heavyweight sandbox per agent, each agent gets a lightweight actor backed by S3.

Actors provide a long-lived process for long agent turns, in-memory state for context, a WebSocket server for multiplayer, durable SQLite storage backed by S3, and hibernation when idle.

It's a similar model to Cloudflare Durable Objects, but it’s open source and self-hostable.

Here’s a video walkthrough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ev6I7DOV9c

When we went through YC in 2023, we were building infrastructure for multiplayer games like Diep and Krunker. This involved heavily optimizing high-throughput matchmaking, real-time player messages, and blitz scaling. Through that process, we spent a lot of time on workloads where Postgres couldn't keep up with our throughput. We started out by hacking together Lua scripts on top of Redis, but this became too cumbersome to maintain and upgrade. This led us to extend our game server orchestrator to support what we call Rivet Actors today: many lightweight workers with in-memory state and durable storage. By using actors, we were able to serve tens of millions of monthly active users.

As agents grew in popularity, it became clear that running agents in sandboxes is inefficient. Sandboxes are expensive, mostly idle, and slow to start. Developers started using actors because they are far more memory efficient (72 KB baseline for actors vs 512 MB for a minimal sandbox) and fast to start (4.9 ms p99 for actors vs 1.7 s p99 for sandboxes).

For example, Amp is using Rivet to orchestrate multiplayer agents. They originally tried to build on Cloudflare Durable Objects, but couldn’t launch because of the platform’s limitations and unresponsive support. They migrated to Rivet Actors in a weekend and deploy on-prem. Rivet’s flexible architecture lets them adapt it to their own use cases without being constrained by a framework or the memory, storage, and runtime limits of Cloudflare Durable Objects.

Under the hood, Rivet is backed by S3 while maintaining SSD speeds.

Why S3? Previously, Rivet ran on FoundationDB. However, we were surprised to find that companies are storing orders of magnitude more data on Rivet Actors than in Postgres, such as large session transcripts, agent artifacts, and full POSIX filesystems. As their data grew, they had to start paying for SSDs that sat mostly idle with old transcripts. This led us to double down on S3 as our primary storage medium without sacrificing performance. This choice means that data stored on Rivet is 10× cheaper than on EBS gp3 while maintaining SSD speeds.

It’s not as simple as writing data straight to S3. Lots of PUTs for tiny blobs of data are slow and expensive. Instead, we use an SSD tier to optimize speed and cost:

When you write data to an actor’s SQLite database, the write is acknowledged once SSDs in 2 of 3 availability zones have it. Then, the data is batched to S3 in the background. This means that S3 is never on the write path, which lowers latency and cost. When reading data or waking an actor, Rivet reads from SSDs if already cached and falls back to S3 if not. SSD caches can be tuned to meet your needs, giving you configurable tiered storage for your actors.

This architecture lets Rivet provide 1.07 ms durable writes (3 AZ, p99), 1.36 ms reads (p99), and 138 ms reads from object storage (p99).

We’ve spent a lot of time making sure that Rivet can run wherever you need it. Self-hosting requires deploying a single Rust binary with S3 as the only dependency, Rivet Cloud lets you deploy dedicated clusters on AWS or GCP in any region, and BYOC lets us deploy Rivet to your VPC without having to operate it yourself. Rivet also runs identically in local dev as in production, since Rivet is a lightweight binary that runs anywhere

Rivet Actors can be written in TypeScript or Rust. Out of the box, they support agents (Pi Durable), workflows, real-time, multiplayer, running AI-generated code, Durable Streams, and integrations with tools like Vercel’s Eve and Turso. See all of our available guides, or point your agent at them: https://rivet.dev/docs/#guides

Try it out now, by reading our quickstart guides (https://rivet.dev/docs/) or ask your agent: “Run npx skills add rivet-dev/skills, then build a multiplayer chat agent and run it locally.”

We’d love to get feedback on your experience with Rivet! We’re deeply invested in making Rivet an easy-to-self-host, flexible, and efficient way to run agentic workloads.

GitHub: https://github.com/rivet-dev/rivet

Architecture: https://rivet.dev/docs/architecture/

Benchmarks: https://rivet.dev/docs/benchmarking/

Self-hosting: https://rivet.dev/docs/deploy/self-host/

( 60 comments | 2 points | on HN )
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by fastball on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:27PM (#50381808)
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Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:40PM (#50381949)
Appreciate the kind words, would love to hear feedback on v3 in our Discord when you upgrade!
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by keeganpoppen on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:52PM (#50383599)
fairy tale land?
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by fastball on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:11PM (#50385884)
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Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by apsurd on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:44PM (#50381999)
Wouldn't an agent in any capacity need a sandbox runtime to do agentic work? When you say "sandboxes are too slow" do you mean needing to boot the sandbox to get back Agent context? Is the idea that memory/context and runtime env are separate concepts in rivet?

(I'm a professional developer but don't do any orchestration so trying to understand from basic mental model pov)

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by k9294 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:01PM (#50382195)
There is a notion right now of decoupling the agent loop from the sandbox, so the sandbox isn't waiting for request-response from the agent. This would probably be 90+% of all the agent work.

If you combine this with products like Sprites from Fly.io (or OSS version - agent substrate), where you pay only per execution request in a sandbox, you can have huge savings compare to the event loop inside the sanbdox. You will be billed only for request executions (tens of milliseconds per read/write, hundreds of milliseconds per search, etc.) and zero for all the waiting time during the the inference phase.

Also, if you don't require a real Linux sandbox — you might actually emulate the environment, e.g. just-bash idea with linux-like environment to give agents something that looks like their native habitat, but under the hood, it can be just CF Durable Objects SQLite or whatever else.

Probably(?) almost all knowledge work doesn't require a Linux sandbox. You can just build a document reading and editing agent that does tool calls and connects to other products via MCPs, APIs, etc. And lightweight actors make a lot of sense to me in these cases.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:20PM (#50382444)
Exactly this.

> Also, if you don't require a real Linux sandbox — you might actually emulate the environment

We built agentOS for this: https://rivet.dev/agentos/

It provides Linux-compatible sandboxing using V8 / WebAssembly. Supports full POSIX filesystems, networking stacks, and process trees.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by apsurd on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:36PM (#50382692)
This is a very helpful explanation, thank you. The part about basically duck-typing an Agent's environment and tool access is particularly insightful.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:14PM (#50382348)
Hey!

> Wouldn't an agent in any capacity need a sandbox runtime to do agentic work?

Developers on Rivet use 3 different patterns:

- Just agents: many agents just need tools, such as customer support or personal agents

- Agents with lightweight sandbox: Rivet provides a V8 / WebAssembly sandboxing library for running JS & Python with a filesystem, which covers most workloads like data analysis, file processing, evals, and code mode (https://rivet.dev/agentos/)

- Agent outside of the sandbox: expose the sandbox to the agent as tools, which is better for blast radius, trust boundary, and orchestration (see below)

> Is the idea that state/memory/context and runtime env are separate concepts in rivet?

Exactly, Rivet Actors support running the harness outside of the sandbox. It's often referred to "separation of head from the hands."

I wrote a bit about why a while back: https://rivet.dev/blog/2026-07-27-run-your-harness-outside-t...

> When you say "sandboxes are too slow" do you mean needing to boot the sandbox to get back Agent state?

Specifically coldstarts. As LLMs are getting faster and have more realtime use cases, sandboxes are become the bottleneck on time to interactive for an agent.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by realty_geek on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:55PM (#50382128)
Ah, another rivet. I initially thought it was a pivot of:

https://rivet.ironcladapp.com/

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:00PM (#50382183)
<insert spiderman meme here>
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by tonyoconnell on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:39PM (#50387868)
Me too... the Rivet from Ironclad was amazing for its time (when GPT3 came out). I don't think the developer realised how huge it could have been.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by minraws on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:05PM (#50382233)
Interesting idea, horrible ux atm though, my codex/claude whatever is just as confused as me what and how are we supposed to use it exactly and all the edge cases. Hope you folks can figure out some interesting ideas to improve it though.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:18PM (#50382421)
Hey! Can you share a bit more about what your agent is saying so we can fix this? Would love to chat with you in Discord too: https://rivet.dev/discord
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by stiiv on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:07PM (#50382259)
What if I just want self-hostable TypeScript actors _without agents_? I'm a long-time fan of Akka et. al., but to my knowledge Node never got a proper framework.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:17PM (#50382398)
Hey! Rivet is pure actors at its core, there's nothing inherently specific to agents.

Instead, we provide an optional agent library that runs Pi Durable on top of actors (https://rivet.dev/agents/docs/quickstart/) or you can write your agent from scratch if you choose.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by bigbuppo on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:22PM (#50382488)
Ooh, so mod_rivet is getting funding? That's great. Tcl does not get enough love these days.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by haseebws94 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:40PM (#50382750)
Hey Nathan! I remember Rivet from Playflow, back when you guys did game server orchestration. Great to see you guys grow!

Have you had agents like claude code , codex etc all fully running in agent-os? Trying to understand the use case a bit better here. For context, I've recently built our own pipeline which spins up ephemeral linux vms for claude code, codex, etc which do their work & the state always persists but frees up resources when finished. Is the idea pretty much similar for agent-os here?

Also with the s3 backing changes, it reminds me a lot of the work done on celld, good to see more self-hostable durable objects out there.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:02PM (#50382982)
Been a minute since the gaming days, thanks for reaching out!

> Have you had agents like claude code , codex etc all fully running in agent-os?

We have gotten them all working inside of agentOS. However, we found it's a better architecture to run the agent loop outside of agentOS and expose it as tools. The trust boundary & blast radius of running the agent inside the sandbox makes it difficult.

Also, the memory overhead of running individual Claude Code instances is nuts, it's better to run the agents in a single process using tools.

I wrote a bit more on it here: https://rivet.dev/blog/2026-07-27-run-your-harness-outside-t...

> Also with the s3 backing changes, it reminds me a lot of the work done on celld, good to see more self-hostable durable objects out there.

Appreciate it!

Rivet has a much different architecture than most S3-backed databases. Having an object-per-actor doesn't scale well with cost and performance, so we built a SSD tiered storage engine instead: https://rivet.dev/changelog/2026-10-26-introducing-rivet-3-0...

Ping me on Discord if you give it a try, would be fun to catch up: https://rivet.dev/discord

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by esafak on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:44PM (#50382786)
My first reaction: this is weird; agentic workloads have many problems but orchestration speed ain't one of them. You spend most of the time waiting for the model! Is this for small models?

I would rather have lead with the durability aspect.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by feifan on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:53PM (#50383609)
this is for people/products that run dozens/hundreds of agents concurrently.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by chicagobuss on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:57PM (#50382929)
looks cool - I'm curious how this is similar / different from celld

..and how you're doing anything with s3-backing durably and safely with latency numbers less than several hundred ms

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by Tanjreeve on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:08PM (#50383803)
In OP

> It’s not as simple as writing data straight to S3. Lots of PUTs for tiny blobs of data are slow and expensive. Instead, we use an SSD tier to optimize speed and cost:

> When you write data to an actor’s SQLite database, the write is acknowledged once SSDs in 2 of 3 availability zones have it. Then, the data is batched to S3 in the background. This means that S3 is never on the write path, which lowers latency and cost. When reading data or waking an actor, Rivet reads from SSDs if already cached and falls back to S3 if not. SSD caches can be tuned to meet your needs, giving you configurable tiered storage for your actors.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by chicagobuss on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:24PM (#50387349)
Got it. This is the og confluent cloud architecture, then. That match data crossing availability zones might surprise people people on AWS since that will add at least $0.04 for every gb sent in
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by Tanjreeve on Friday November 06, 2026 @06:41AM (#50391160)
I'm curious if it actually needs to be across AZs versus if it just needs a few instances but yes as written there is a trade off happening.

The other route for fast S3 writes others have used (Turso springs to mind) is express S3 zones but those have a lot of region specific fine print still.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by dragonkhoi on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:04PM (#50383756)
Been running Rivet v3 self-hosted on AWS and it's dope!
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:27PM (#50384042)
Love to hear it! Don't hesitate to share feedback in our Discord: https://rivet.dev/discord
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by SriniK on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:07PM (#50383787)
Congrats! How is the security posture? Without really comparing isolation and sandboxing etc.. comparing with E2B is not the same.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:27PM (#50384035)
Hey! Rivet includes a library for running untrusted user code called agentOS: https://rivet.dev/agentos/

It provides Linux-compatible sandboxing using V8 / WebAssembly. Supports full POSIX filesystems, networking stacks, and process trees. Security-wise, it's the same model as Cloudflare Workers & Chromium.

Rivet is frequently used for running the harness outside of the sandbox. Wrote a bit about why here: https://rivet.dev/blog/2026-07-27-run-your-harness-outside-t...

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by ATechGuy2 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:27PM (#50384037)
Congrats on the launch! Rivet seems neat; will definitely give it a spin.

> Sandboxes are expensive, mostly idle, and slow to start.

Many sandboxing startups would disagree. Do you have any numbers to support?

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:32PM (#50384106)
Appreciate it! Would love to hear feedback when you do: https://rivet.dev/discord

> Many sandboxing startups would disagree. Do you have any numbers to support?

There is no one-size-fits-all, but we're finding Rivet's benefits fit well for most agent workloads. I don't believe sandboxes are going away, but I think different workloads will move to specialized architectures.

Regarding cost, there are F500 companies using Rivet's tools for saving cost for use cases like RL.

Regarding coldstarts, it depends heavily on the use case, and there's not a one-size-fits-all. Benchmarks are pulled from Compute SDK sandbox benchmarks, more here: https://rivet.dev/docs/benchmarking/

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by wsxiaoys on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:40PM (#50384833)
Same problem here. Internally we simulated it with just-bash plus whatever filesystem was handy. For production we went with DO after surveying their agent ecosystem, but it has since split into two paths (@cloudflare/agents or think vs. @cloudflare/computer) with real trade-offs. Rivet's s3 setup looks like a much closer fit for us — I'd want to try it on the next project.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:55PM (#50385013)
Let us know how it goes! We're active in our Discord: https://rivet.dev/discord

We're big believers in lightweight sandboxing approachs akin to Durable Objects in addition to existing x86 sandboxes.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by timsuchanek on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:22PM (#50385324)
Congratz on the launch! I love how efficient this is - I'm pretty sure more agents will be built this way than having the heavy sandbox. Quick note, in the README on GH there's a link to https://github.com/rivet-dev/rivet/blob/main/engine/packages... which doesn't lead anywhere.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:35PM (#50385480)
Thanks Tim! Will get that fixed.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by kianN on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:36PM (#50385491)
> When you write data to an actor’s SQLite database, the write is acknowledged once SSDs in 2 of 3 availability zones have it. Then, the data is batched to S3 in the background. This means that S3 is never on the write path, which lowers latency and cost. When reading data or waking an actor, Rivet reads from SSDs if already cached and falls back to S3 if not. SSD caches can be tuned to meet your needs, giving you configurable tiered storage for your actors.

As someone who is not incredibly deep in the agent space, but works a lot on scientific and distributed computing, this really caught my eye. Seems like this is primarily part of the cloud offering, but a true posix compatible filesystem that interops cleanly with S3 on the backend would be an incredibly interesting product (especially if it were open-sourced).

A brief sidenote: I did a triple take when I saw the name because Rivet is the internal name of our long-running job queue service. You all have great taste.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by patcon on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:51PM (#50385668)
I hate to be that guy, but celld does essentially the same thing, no? It waits until relocated to another node, or stored in S3, and unless something has gone wrong, this will essentially always be storing to the other node first. (Admittedly, I recall it used to be just replicating to 1 node was considered stored, and if that went down it could be lost. I think it's two now, or at least the bug is filed)
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by kianN on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:06PM (#50385816)
I'm not super familiar with celld, but my understanding is that its not a full posix filesystem. We work with lots of dynamically created and queried duckdb and netcdf files. My impression of celld is its meant for more lightweight storage and that objects live in SQLite files.

I could be totally mistaken but that's my current understanding.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by whalesalad on Friday November 06, 2026 @12:17AM (#50388500)
Lots of ways to use S3 as a filesystem. FUSE is one. AWS even offers it as a service now.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by sharts on Friday November 06, 2026 @01:25AM (#50388868)
Those don’t actually give you things like fsevents/inotify. If say you needed to run git or build something, it would not work.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by Upbiddr on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:44PM (#50385578)
Congrats on the launch! The explanation of keeping S3 off the write path made the storage model much easier to understand. For someone starting with a small self-hosted deployment, what tends to be the first operational challenge as usage grows?
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by NathanFlurry on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:47PM (#50386238)
Hey! We’ve invested heavily in making self-hosting simple compared to the standard. Scaling up is just a matter of adding nodes.

We also provide guides for every major cloud, and no special tuning is required as you add nodes.

If you’re self hosting and have questions, please let us know on Discord or GitHub! https://rivet.dev/discord

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by serjester on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:18PM (#50386496)
Even as someone who’s very involved in the space, I don’t understand what you guys do. It’d be helpful if your website led with the problem you’re solving instead of technical benchmarks.

I also don’t really understand the distinction between an actor and an agent. I’ve never heard anyone call them actors, and I doubt you’ll win that mindshare as a small startup.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by throwaway-blaze on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:44PM (#50386706)
Man I was just coming here to say the same thing. I have a Ph.D. in CS and should be the target audience for this as a guy doing startup stuff that could easily try out a new architecture or tool.

I read "Rivet (https://rivet.dev) – a fast, high-density, and scalable orchestrator for agentic workloads using the actor model" and I think "I have no idea what this means, except it's a new way to make a backend service of some kind??"

I've reached an age where, if I don't understand what it is from your description, I'm not the problem.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by ggsp on Friday November 06, 2026 @01:22AM (#50388852)
I’m likely not much farther ahead than you are in understanding exactly what Rivet does, as I learn by banging my head against the thing I’m trying to use, and so far all I’ve done is read.

“Actor” comes from established CS terminology [1], and agents-in-actors make sense in principle.

Agree with others in this thread that a few use-cases in the README would help me decide whether this is worth banging my head against or not.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actor_model

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by madisonmay on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:06PM (#50386878)
Hey Nathan! You build a fantastic product and your tech seems rock solid. I think you would benefit from more use-case specific tutorials and how-to guides so that people find and use your product for the applications that it's a great fit for. Multi-agent systems, code review agents, software factories, etc.

More so than ever, folks are choosing to build rather than buy -- you should emphasize that your product lets teams avoid having to choose by handling the "boring" parts for them and letting them focus on the parts that are unique to their business.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by xms17189 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:37PM (#50387064)
Fascinating architecture—treating agent turns as persistent lightweight actors backed by tiered SQLite/S3 rather than spinning up dedicated VMs makes a lot of sense for latency and cost.

For workflows that inevitably require arbitrary shell execution or local compiler tools (like coding agents running tests), do you envision delegating just the side-effect execution out to ephemeral runners while keeping the stateful actor long-lived, or is Rivet primarily focused on API/tool-calling agents?

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by looplilt on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:57PM (#50387610)
Keeping S3 off the write path is the design choice that makes the whole pitch click for me: acknowledging a write once two of three availability zones have it on SSD, then batching to object storage in the background, gets durability without paying object-storage latency on every turn. That also explains why separating the agent loop from the sandbox matters, since a long-running turn shouldn't have to keep a heavyweight environment warm just to hold its state. My main question is how that tiering behaves when an actor wakes after a long idle period and its data has fully cooled to S3: is that 138 ms read the typical cost, or does it get worse with larger session transcripts and filesystems?
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by adsharma on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:33PM (#50388235)
Distributed actors are also good platforms to run graph algorithms. We're evaluating Rivet as a potential substrate to run page rank and clustering algorithms on large graphs, while supporting cypher queries over the result.

https://github.com/orgs/Latentpedia/discussions/4

Related work:

https://sigmodrecord.org/publications/sigmodRecord/1712/pdfs...

https://arxiv.org/abs/2301.01395

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by sebastienburel on Friday November 06, 2026 @01:43AM (#50388994)
How does hibernation decide an actor is idle? In my agent runtime actors run in XS. Messages are queued and only handled once the current handler returns, so a synchronous handler is never cut in half. But while a handler waits on an async call, an HTTP request say, other messages still get handled. So “no message being processed” isn’t the same as “nothing in flight”. Does Rivet hibernate an actor with an outstanding request, and if so, what happens when the response comes back?
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by bshafiq on Friday November 06, 2026 @02:19AM (#50389198)
Love the actor model approach here. Hibernating idle agents while keeping state durable in S3 is a huge win for cost.

Curious how Rivet handles the runaway loop problem though. When you have long-lived actors passing messages to each other, a simple state bug can cause them to ping-pong the exact same payload indefinitely.

Because the actors stay alive and keep responding (returning 200s), your infra looks perfectly healthy, but the developer's OpenAI bill just exploded in the background.

Are you leaving loop detection entirely to the devs building on top of Rivet, or is there any native circuit breaker at the orchestrator level to kill an actor that's stuck in a cyclic state?

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by alexey_anshakov on Friday November 06, 2026 @04:41AM (#50390248)
Moving state persistence to write-ahead SQLite tiered into S3 is a very clean answer to the latency-cost trap of raw object storage. The big operational win with decoupled actor state like this is avoiding zombie locks when an agent execution times out mid-turn. Curious how you handle split-brain fencing if an actor network partition occurs while a batched write is still draining to S3.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by AlexeyBelov on Saturday November 07, 2026 @02:31AM (#50402458)
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Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by alexey_anshakov on Saturday November 07, 2026 @03:27AM (#50402730)
Not a bot, just a systems engineer genuinely interested in tiered storage and state durability. SQLite with S3 persistence is a topic I build around every day.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by jaekwon on Friday November 06, 2026 @05:51AM (#50390757)
Not using the actor model, and yet massively parallel: https://gnosh.ai/swarm.html

I wonder when one approach will be used over the other.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by coindefdev on Friday November 06, 2026 @08:07AM (#50391877)
The hard part for me has not been getting agents to write code. It has been keeping a bunch of long-running ones alive without burning through quota every few hours. Suspend/resume and cost tracking that I do not have to build myself would help.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by canadiantim on Friday November 06, 2026 @08:43AM (#50392203)
This is soooo cool! Awesome!

You mention support for Turso, like we could use Turso instead of sqlite?

Amazing work though, definitely will be following with keen interest and likely adopting it! Love that the genesis came from trials and tribulations for game dev.

Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by sarathkavuru on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:03AM (#50392419)
Curious how hibernation works across a multi-minute agent turn with tool calls in between. When the actor wakes, is conversation state just the SQLite snapshot, or do you keep a warm in-memory buffer for the active turn? Also would love a rough density number—actors per host—for a coding-agent style workload with a WebSocket client attached.
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by petervandijck on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:19AM (#50392573)
Love that architecture. I’m becoming a major fan of SQLite for agents to work with. I wonder if you looked at Cloudlfares D1 as an option. For myself, I built an easy mcp for my agents to run SQLite databases which I’m finding mostly useful for scheduled agents in Claude, they have stuff to keep track of. https://getairdash.com if anyone wants to try that out (it’s free, cloudflare is very very cheap)
Re:Launch HN: Rivet (YC F25) – Scale and Orchestrate Agents ... by takeitwhen on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:25AM (#50392644)
One thing that bit me running long agent workflows: hibernate/resume is great until tool results aren't part of the durable snapshot. If the actor wakes from SQLite alone and the previous turn's tool payload lived only in memory (or a temp file), the next step invents a confident continuation. We ended up treating "resume" as unsafe unless the last tool I/O was written into the same durable store as the conversation before suspend. Density numbers matter less than whether wake always reconstitutes enough to refuse to continue when that evidence is missing.