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Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by gosen on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @05:29AM (#50350214)
> Per David Abitbol, who leads AI ops there: 56 Nvidia B200s, a blended 30 cents per million tokens, roughly a tenth of what they paid Anthropic and OpenAI.

So they've invested around $2.5M-3M into hardware + monthly operating costs (electricity, updates, cooling). I wonder how much did they spend on tokens to decide to make such a switch. I mean if they used to spend $500k-1M per month just on tokens then it would pay off in a year or so, assuming their infra will be stable and efficient.

We'll see if that's a trend for mid-big companies or just an experiment.

Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by InsidiousWombat on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @05:32AM (#50350246)
I doubt local will be all that common aside from regulatory requirements but buying them off your cloud provider will be the new norm for many enterprises.

The slice of the pie where frontier models are required is just gonna be smaller and smaller. And at point where AI wrote docs, tests, and all the easy and medium difficulty functions you are already saving a ton per employee

Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by aurareturn on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @05:41AM (#50350306)
Personally, I think Anthropic and OpenAI will introduce enterprise plans such as $2,000/month/engineer plans that will give 100x more tokens than the current max plans and then charge API pricing.

Yes, margins will go down a bit but the frontier labs still have some leverage.

Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by AidenVennis on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @05:41AM (#50350307)
The B200 was launched in 2024 if I'm not mistaken. The big gamble with this might be how fast these will deprecate in value/use as soon as Nvidia launches a new and better product.

At the moment at least Nvidia doesn't have a incentive to release a new product because it's sold out as it is and probably doesn't want to plunge their customers in depth with outdated products?

Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by KptMarchewa on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:56AM (#50350887)
They do want to launch new product - Vera Rubin
Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by solyin on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @07:00AM (#50350921)
In related news, Core 4 Solutions listed a decommissioned $60 million AI supercomputer cluster featuring 9,600 Nvidia A100 GPUs on eBay. It's six years old. Nvidia isn't Intel with tick and tock, but they're still going to come out with newer hardware every year.
Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by tybit on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @08:29AM (#50351739)
The gamble in this case is pocket change. They could comfortably spend this amount every year and just use precious years for overnight / batch processing jobs when they become less useful for dev work but remain operational.
Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by mongrelion on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @05:55AM (#50350398)
> So they've invested around $2.5M-3M into hardware + monthly operating costs (electricity, updates, cooling).

Are you assuming that they bought the hardware? because they could also be renting the metal off a provider, in which case they either pay by the hour or have a yearly commitment to save on costs.

Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by yolo3000 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:04AM (#50350458)
It says in the video that they run them on Together.ai
Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by gosen on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:20AM (#50350600)
yeah, seems like they're renting (according to the info from the video), but doesn't it make the bill worse? I mean the provider makes money somehow, so it should be more expensive for revolut. I guess it's a lot anyway
Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by greggsy on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:56AM (#50350881)
Maintenance, capacity management and spares all add up, not to mention labour. If they have a requirement to maintain geographical diversity then that moves the needle significantly if they’re primarily based on the other side of the country.
Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by gosen on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @07:42AM (#50351318)
I've quickly checked and guestimate of the rental would be ~250-300k per month for this kind of usage they claim to have. It's all based on open prices from together.ai. So probably it worth the switch for them afterall, I can imagine that 56 engineers can burn tokens for more than 300k per month
Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by f311a on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:13AM (#50350538)
Unless you have very strict requirements, it does not make any sense to invest in hardware. Most companies just rent it. Also, it's pretty hard to get the hardware.
Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by littlecranky67 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @08:52AM (#50351978)
It is in the article: "the gains showed up when tokens stopped being rationed" - so it is not just a "cost per token before/after" calculation. Once you told your employees "token are free, flatrate for all - go nuts!" they started to use it for all sorts of things and increased productivity. That is not easy to calculate.