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Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by cyanydeez on Sunday October 04, 2026 @04:30PM (#49957507)
it's interesting how much this sounds like astroturf.
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by Marha01 on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:04PM (#49957853)
> it's interesting how much this sounds like astroturf.

It is also interesting how much the anti-datacenter panic sounds like astroturf.

Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by jacquesm on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:21PM (#49958018)
And who exactly would they be astroturfing for?
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by stvltvs on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:27PM (#49958062)
Big Labor j/k
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by fragmede on Sunday October 04, 2026 @06:00PM (#49958336)
China and Russia.
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by quietsegfault on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:32PM (#49958106)
People looking for something to run against?
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by ewild on Sunday October 04, 2026 @06:37PM (#49958663)
ignorance
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by phoghed on Sunday October 04, 2026 @11:38PM (#49960431)
Future of Life Institute, Guardrails Alliance, Public First Action, PauseAI, ControlAI.

Both sides of this issue are doing the same thing, you’d be a fool to believe otherwise.

Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by jacquesm on Monday October 05, 2026 @01:42AM (#49961081)
Only one side can afford astroturfers and has a large contingent of employees on HN.
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by phoghed on Monday October 05, 2026 @08:15AM (#49963830)
That’s not true. The AI side can afford more surely, but that doesn’t mean the anti-AI side is broke. Lawmakers are being lobbied, YouTubers are already being paid to make vids, seems unlikely it would stop there.
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by jacquesm on Monday October 05, 2026 @01:51PM (#49968076)
What makes you so confident? Do you have any proof of this? If so I would love to see it because it would explain some stuff I've come across, but could not place.
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by phoghed on Monday October 05, 2026 @02:03PM (#49968225)
YouTuber saying she was offered money https://youtu.be/lPdmYMHrWKg?is=JY229A1XgOBi-pdV

Creator outreach guy at ControlAI talking about the same type of thing https://lnkd.in/p/ehkuYFkw

Future of life has a program for digital media outreach https://futureoflife.org/project/digital-media-accelerator/

The PACs are well reported on

https://www.axios.com/2026/06/30/ai-safeguards-public-first-...

https://www.axios.com/2026/07/17/ai-safeguards-millions-repu...

Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by Marha01 on Monday October 05, 2026 @12:43AM (#49960763)
China, of course. They don't like that the US is currently ahead in the AI race.
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by hypfer on Sunday October 04, 2026 @04:43PM (#49957613)
LinkedIn CV says 8 Years working for google as a Data Center Facilities Technician, so. Yeah.

Not necessarily astroturfed but definitely biased.

Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by david-gpu on Sunday October 04, 2026 @04:53PM (#49957738)
Biased, or well informed?
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by hypfer on Sunday October 04, 2026 @04:56PM (#49957763)
In that specific position probably leaning more towards biased than towards well-informed, though both components likely do exist.

It's not well-paid enough to be immune to kool-aid etc, and it's not on the sociopathic management level either, so we can expect a certain degree of very human rationalization going on.

Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by petergs on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:03PM (#49957845)
How would being high paid help make you immune to kool aid? In my experience in low paid work, it’s a lot easier to hate the company…
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by hypfer on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:08PM (#49957880)
Being paid well enough gives the mind an out from cognitive dissonance that doesn't involve actually believing the company narrative.

It offers the compelling counter-narrative of "yes, we're evil, but hell yeah this is lucrative af". That makes the ego even happier, as in that story, one is the clever mastermind playing the system, so we can reasonably assume that that path will be taken.

If that path is unavailable, and cognitive dissonance sets in, the other path left is actually drinking the kool-aid. The corp must be nice, after all.

(This all assumes that people do in fact want to do good and have a conscience, but for those that doesn't apply to, there's the sociopathy path as mentioned in the previous comment. Reality is slightly more murky and dynamic, but I'd argue that this rough if-ladder exists as described.)

Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by sapphicsnail on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:29PM (#49958082)
Have you ever talked to people with a low paying job?
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by hypfer on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:30PM (#49958099)
Yes, I find it a lot more pleasant than most of this industry.
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by gspr on Sunday October 04, 2026 @04:48PM (#49957675)
Also outright dishonest to not add that as a disclaimer!
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by williamtell on Sunday October 04, 2026 @04:54PM (#49957748)
>> During my career there
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by gspr on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:07PM (#49957876)
I certainly read that as "there" being the town, not the actual data center!
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by tzs on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:33PM (#49958118)
" I remember we hired a local who'd grown up in the town and he was "really surprised" when he started to see what we were doing to remain efficient"

That makes it very clear he was an employee of Google working at the data center.

Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by hypfer on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:20PM (#49958011)
Same, but revisiting it with context, it does seem mostly obvious enough.

Written communication is hard

Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by dotancohen on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:20PM (#49958012)
He specifically said he worked there. Did you think perhaps he possibly worked for the outsourced cleaning crew?
Re:Improper redaction reveals Google Data Center water and e... by Dylan16807 on Sunday October 04, 2026 @04:53PM (#49957734)
The use of the word "we" seems pretty clear to me.