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Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by browningstreet on Friday September 25, 2026 @02:06PM (#49847970)
Doing research work with it that outputs any kind of artifact is.. really painful. It constantly crashes, has to regenerate.. and then the output is often very difficult to carry to other Microsoft products, like Sharepoint. I end up creating PDFs that I import.

I'll go ahead and burn working hours on it because I'm getting paid, and people like the things I create.. but it's a very crippled and painful version of what you get with the frontier products and most OSS options.

Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by poly2it on Friday September 25, 2026 @02:33PM (#49848268)
It boggles my mind that Microsoft can fail to deliver even bare minimum working software so consistently, with all the engineering talent they house. What are the product teams doing?
Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by TuringNYC on Friday September 25, 2026 @05:15PM (#49850041)
I feel it is even worse than bare minimum -- it is so bad it infuriates the user. It is hard to get away from that reaction when one uses better alternatives in their personal life.
Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by nsbdhciebsbdhc on Saturday September 26, 2026 @01:13AM (#49853414)
Vibecoding.
Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by discordance on Saturday September 26, 2026 @03:40AM (#49854190)
incredible right? - not to mention the complete access they have to OpenAI's IP
Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by Droobfest on Saturday September 26, 2026 @06:18AM (#49855074)
It boggles my mind that it doesn't seem to effect their bottom line at all
Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by homeonthemtn on Friday September 25, 2026 @09:21PM (#49852199)
Oh it's so bad. So so bad.

If you prompted an AI to return answers "as though you habitually ate soap and crayons while mouth breathing" you'd still get a better response than copilot

Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by robotnikman on Friday September 25, 2026 @09:42PM (#49852337)
Its so bad you would probably get better answers using a 2b parameter local model
Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by epihelix on Saturday September 26, 2026 @02:57AM (#49853950)
That used to be the case, but the current Enterprise version, with the poorly-named "GPT 5.6 think deeper" option, is very decent indeed. Can't tell if it's Sol, Terra or a mixture of the two, but it's certainly not Luna.

(Stick with the default "Auto" and you probably get Phi-4 -- it's lobotomised AF.)

I use Copilot a lot now. Unlimited, free, high-quality, enterprise-protected inference is not to be sniffed at. It also writes some of the nicest code I've ever seen from an LLM, that's almost entirely free of comments.

Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by rmaxdev on Saturday September 26, 2026 @03:34AM (#49854168)
My previous company used copilot enterprise

My experience was great because I had premium license and only used thinking models

Most colleagues didn’t have premium and used default/auto model

People stick to their very first bad experience unfortunately

Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by Jenk on Saturday September 26, 2026 @05:13AM (#49854691)
Are you referring to GitHub Copilot? I believe this thread is referring to Windows Copilot, such as the AI feature embedded into every Office progam, which is not the same experience.
Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by epihelix on Saturday September 26, 2026 @10:24AM (#49856880)
No, good ol' bog-standard Enterprise M365 Copilot. The one with the worst chat interface in history. That one.

I don't think many people are aware of just how much it can do; it's certainly not advertised, and very likely not intended.

Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by sterlind on Saturday September 26, 2026 @02:38PM (#49859261)
could you give some examples?
Re:Microsoft Abandons Personal AI Chatbot Race with Copilot ... by epihelix on Sunday September 27, 2026 @01:21AM (#49863587)
Try sending this prompt to "GPT 5.6 Think Deeper" in the interface:

Provide me with optimised python code to perform a prime number search. Test the code and report on performance. Benchmark different search solutions. Provide the code in a downloadable zip archive.

A silly toy example, but it should help give a hint of what's possible.