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Re:Back and shoulder surgery is often worse than useless by majorchord on Thursday September 24, 2026 @07:16PM (#49838079)
As someone with herniated discs, spinal stenosis, degenerative disc disease and scoliosis for decades, who's already had surgery but still got worse... what else even is there besides more surgery?

I can't wave a magic wand and just put more space between my discs... that's the only thing that's going to ease off my pain as far as I'm aware.

Re:Back and shoulder surgery is often worse than useless by Game_Ender on Thursday September 24, 2026 @07:18PM (#49838107)
This missing bit is that many people are pain free with the same scans as you have. Surgery does help people, but it’s clear that the signals we use to say surgery is needed are very noisy and not as accurate as the surgeons would have you think.
Re:Back and shoulder surgery is often worse than useless by omgwtfbyobbq on Thursday September 24, 2026 @07:25PM (#49838162)
IIRC, besides being pain caused by physical problems, it can also be pain caused by nerve issues (slightly different), and pain caused by your brain (very different, could be multiple causes there).

If surgery doesn't help, and/or like the other commenter mentioned, people with similar physical characteristics don't have pain, then it's time to explore the other two.

Re:Back and shoulder surgery is often worse than useless by bigwheels on Thursday September 24, 2026 @07:41PM (#49838285)
I'm sorry you're suffering. There are several regenerative approaches getting ever closer which will be able to help your body re-grow cartilage. Hopefully they'll be FDA approved sooner than later.
Re:Back and shoulder surgery is often worse than useless by redwood on Thursday September 24, 2026 @07:49PM (#49838343)
Physical therapy helps. Check this out https://youtu.be/n9CDhcVTAdc and https://youtu.be/k1luKAS_Xcg (I only started paying attention after my emergency back surgery)
Re:Back and shoulder surgery is often worse than useless by majorchord on Thursday September 24, 2026 @08:12PM (#49838526)
I have been trying many different types and combinations of stretches and various prolonged physical therapies (in-office and not) for many years... unfortunately nothing has ever helped, not even the McGill Big 3.

Sitting and laying is fine, but walking I can manage maybe 10 minutes max before it starts to hurt, and only gets worse quickly from there. Then I must rest for at least as long as I was walking to get another 10 or so minutes.

Sometimes manually stretching my spine out can help reset that time limit (like lay down with knees up and push down on my thighs to stretch it, it usually pops), but it's only temporary.

If I'm walking on uneven terrain then my muscles go into wild inflammation mode and are hard as rocks... on top of the spinal/nerve pain.

Re:Back and shoulder surgery is often worse than useless by jnellis on Friday September 25, 2026 @10:56AM (#49845568)
My situation is similar to you. Additionally I can't take NSAIDs. I've been doing RF ablation sessions every 3-4 months (along with steroid shot occasionally.) After a year it's much improved on the pain side but as you know, it's like there's a limited amount of activity you can do and once you go over it, you're stealing from tomorrow, the next day and so on (which means rest on those days.)

Inversion table for 15min a morning also helps just to unload the spine. You can try to do the start of an abdominal crunch to build stomach muscle there while unloaded.

Re:Back and shoulder surgery is often worse than useless by asdff on Thursday September 24, 2026 @09:04PM (#49838952)
Have you ever tried serious strength training of your posterior chain? That fixed me up although my back wasn't as bad as yours. I feel that if the muscles are weak they fail to support the spine in an appropriate way.
Re:Back and shoulder surgery is often worse than useless by TheBigSalad on Thursday September 24, 2026 @09:27PM (#49839124)
Try a ring dinger
Re:Back and shoulder surgery is often worse than useless by Nappes on Friday September 25, 2026 @02:04AM (#49840684)
Soon you will be able to put more stuff in your discs. It’s coming https://regeltec.com/hydrafil/