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Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by CamperBob2 on Saturday August 22, 2026 @03:03PM (#49402731)
"But...but...but what about gender equity in high-school sports?" - Voters
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by edgyquant on Saturday August 22, 2026 @04:18PM (#49403446)
Social issues are just as important to voters as the economy and attacking them for caring about this issue, one that very clearly the people have asserted their opinion on, is dumb. If dems would stop dying in the hill of unpopular social policies they’d be winning more elections.
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by afavour on Saturday August 22, 2026 @06:38PM (#49404546)
Anyone voting on the basis of the issue is the dumb one, sorry.

It’s a manufactured controversy with only a handful of trans athletes (usually at high school level) in the entire country. It does not make the slightest difference to the lives of the vast, vast majority of voters. If you let it outweigh factors that actually affect your life then you’re a dumb voter.

Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by ipaddr on Saturday August 22, 2026 @06:55PM (#49404659)
It affects woman and parents of girls. It's seen as men taking things women had to struggle to get and safety issues. I can see how it would affects women in general but I agree has little affect on those men who do not watch sports and are not pro women.
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by afavour on Saturday August 22, 2026 @06:59PM (#49404690)
“It’s seen as”

Is the crucial statement there. Not “it is”.

> It affects women and parents of girls

No it doesn’t. It’s a new boogeyman to demonize that isn’t actually a factor in almost anyone’s lives. Not to mention that the people pushing this issue are proposing things like genital inspections to ensure the boogeyman never arrives:

https://www.newsweek.com/kansas-republicans-pass-bill-genita...

As the parent of a girl I’m a hell of a lot more concerned about that than I am of a trans kid wanting to play sports.

Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by ipaddr on Saturday August 22, 2026 @07:51PM (#49404980)
The genitals inspections are a result of trans issue. Not concerning yourself with one issue that creates the issue you dislike is shortsighted.

I agree with "seen as" vibes think of the children era being foolish but its what liberal parents are talking about. Mega followers never accepted trans in sport or life so this doesn't change viewpoints.

Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by CamperBob2 on Saturday August 22, 2026 @09:20PM (#49405428)
The genitals inspections are a result of trans issue. Not concerning yourself with one issue that creates the issue you dislike is shortsighted.

The "issue" is only an "issue" because some people on Fox News told you it was an "issue." Ask what you're being distracted from.

Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by the_gastropod on Saturday August 22, 2026 @10:00PM (#49405570)
What are you even talking about? Trans folks didn’t suddenly pop into existence in 2014 or whatever, and force conservatives to recognize them. There’ve been trans people since the beginning of human civilization. As with so many of these culture war topics, this outrage was just pulled from nowhere one day to rile up Fox News viewers after they’d adequately calmed down about Obama’s tan suit.

Suddenly, not wanting trans folks to participate in civilization, Conservatives have gone all in on the transvestigation bullshit that includes genital inspections, accusing conventionally less feminine-looking cis women of being men, etc.

These people are just bigots.

Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by blikn on Sunday August 23, 2026 @08:05AM (#49408138)
No-one is asking for "genital inspections". This is a claim invented for the purpose of sidestepping the fairness argument.
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by esseph on Sunday August 23, 2026 @11:30AM (#49409623)
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by blikn on Sunday August 23, 2026 @01:32PM (#49410694)
Yes. Read the text of bill linked from that article. There is nothing in there that mandates "genital inspection" for the purpose of sex verification in sports. It merely provides an option of reusing existing health data that has already been collected.

But of course data reuse isn't a sufficiently controversial framing, so a "genital inspection" angle is pushed instead by the author of the article.

Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by esseph on Sunday August 23, 2026 @04:40PM (#49412418)
The initiative would require students who want to participate in girls’ sports to provide “a health examination and consent form or other statement signed by the student’s personal health care provider that verifies the student’s biological sex, relying only on one or more of the following: The student’s reproductive anatomy, genetic makeup, or normal endogenously produced testosterone levels.”
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by the_gastropod on Sunday August 23, 2026 @04:07PM (#49412094)
There is no fairness argument, only ignorance. For amateur sports, giving even a little bit of a shit is just pathetic. The risk of accusing cis girs/women of being trans is obviously extremely damaging. And discouraging trans folks from participating in amateur sports is also incredibly cruel.

For professional or top-tier competitive sports, virtually every sports organization has had rules in place to handle this for decades. The IOC has used testosterone levels as the barometer for fairness since 2003. The entire right-wing apparatus works by feigning ignorance, pretending nobody has ever thought about the fairness of trans folks in sports, all to infuriate easily suggestible rubes. It's beyond absurd.

Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by blikn on Sunday August 23, 2026 @04:51PM (#49412497)
You have demonstrated another method of sidestepping the fairness argument, which is to pretend it doesn't exist and claim that no-one should care anyway.
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by goatlover on Saturday August 22, 2026 @07:17PM (#49404794)
It's such a small fraction though and it completely ignores the needs of trans and non-binary athletes. They're not all going to be able to compete on the men's side.
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by ipaddr on Saturday August 22, 2026 @07:54PM (#49405000)
It pushes the world closer to removing the gender barrier in sport. Women and men playing separately is an outdated concept and these frontline warriors are breaking glass.
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by solid_fuel on Saturday August 22, 2026 @08:43PM (#49405262)
Since you supposedly care about women so much I’m sure you can tell me how many trans women were playing in college and professional sports in 2020 versus today. Go ahead. Give me numbers.
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by blikn on Sunday August 23, 2026 @07:35AM (#49407974)
You can see the numbers here: https://hecheated.org.
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by afavour on Sunday August 23, 2026 @01:35PM (#49410715)
Honestly that site proves the absolute unseriousness of these objections. 1,152 athletes at all age ranges in the entire world? And we’re supposed to be deciding who we vote for based on such an embarrassingly small rounding error?

Not to mention, I don’t even understand how these are substantiated. I clicked through to the source link for some of the results cited and they’re just results tables? What does that “prove” the athlete is trans? Who vets this stuff?

Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by blikn on Sunday August 23, 2026 @02:13PM (#49411075)
So given the small numbers of these males, it should be an easy win for the Democrats to say: of course we don't agree with male athletes in female sports, as it is obviously unfair to female athletes, and we will support bipartisan measures to make it unlawful for organizations to do this.

Polling shows that most people across the political spectrum would consider this a reasonable approach.

And then, the Republicans lose most of their attack lines on this topic, and the Democrats don't have to worry as much about having to defend foolish beliefs.

Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by solid_fuel on Friday August 28, 2026 @05:58PM (#49484726)
That's the thing, all this noise and crying from the hateful transphobes and it's over ~1000 people out of 8,300,000,000. You know, I thought conservatives used to care about "freedom" but this shit just proves how much they hate freedom and liberty. They're terrified to just let people live their lives.
Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by CamperBob2 on Saturday August 22, 2026 @04:22PM (#49403490)
If dems would stop dying in the hill of unpopular social policies they’d be winning more elections.

I don't disagree, fundamentally, but the voters are prioritizing minor issues that affect one in a million people over major issues that affect everyone. That's not good judgement, it's stupidity. It's why wedge issues work so well.

Re:Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade... by Arodex on Saturday August 22, 2026 @05:35PM (#49404092)
It's Republicans who are dying on the hill of unpopular policies. Nobody cares about men in womens sports to the point of dying from diarrhea or closing shop.