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Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by otterley on Monday August 17, 2026 @01:22AM (#49326824)
I think it makes the author sound like a dick.

Test for yourself: next time you take out the garbage, loudly tell your partner or roommate, “I took out the garbage. You’re welcome.”

Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by Dylan16807 on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:23AM (#49327456)
That's a shared chore. Do you not see the obvious differences in the situation? If they said "you're welcome" about an obligation like paying taxes and also made it very personal, then it would be close in feeling to your scenario. But it's not. If you offer a genuine gift, in a situation where there is no expectation of payback or debt, you can say you're welcome.
Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by otterley on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:35AM (#49327527)
It’s impolite and weird to say “you’re welcome” when offering a gift for which the recipient did not first express gratitude. It follows “thank you;” it does not precede it.

Try this instead: give a stranger a piece of pre-chewed gum and say “you’re welcome!” Hell, even if it’s not pre-chewed, it’s just presumptuous and rude. You have no idea if they value it or not. They might not even like it.

Even if my barista handed me the coffee I ordered and said “you’re welcome” before I thanked them first, I’d think they’re a little off kilter.

Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by igetspam on Monday August 17, 2026 @09:43AM (#49330732)
Sounds like a you problem. If someone did me a service and told me I was welcome, my take would be entirely based on the delivery of the phrase. I don’t even know what to do with the gum analogy because that’s just nonsense.
Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by otterley on Monday August 17, 2026 @09:56AM (#49330969)
I don't think it's just a "me" "problem"; there are many others who agree with my perspective in this discussion. Take a look around.
Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by Dylan16807 on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:31PM (#49336389)
Remember that this is a post on their website. They're not pushing it onto anyone. So it's not like the gum.

> Even if my barista handed me the coffee I ordered and said “you’re welcome” before I thanked them first, I’d think they’re a little off kilter.

Jeez...

But also that's a conversation where you can thank them first. That part isn't applicable to a post like this.

Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by hinkley on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:34AM (#49327518)
You're working mighty hard to manufacture outrage there.

Coming off more as projecting. Maybe you're being an asshole when you say "You're welcome" but it's a bit how the guy who steals is the first one to accuse others of theft.

Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by otterley on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:37AM (#49327551)
We’re talking about basic etiquette here. I don’t have to manufacture it. If the score on my comment (which I know you can’t see but you’ll have to take my word for it) and other comments in this discussion that express similar sentiment are any indication (among them, “arrogant” and “obnoxious”), I’m by no means the only person who feels this way.

Try my experiments yourself if you disagree, and come back and let us all know how they went for you.

Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by antonvs on Monday August 17, 2026 @05:27AM (#49328332)
Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the common passive-agressive use of "you're welcome" in exactly the kind of context the OP article uses it. But it's a thing, even if you haven't come across it.
Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by hinkley on Monday August 17, 2026 @08:06AM (#49329550)
I am well familiar with passive aggressive. This isn’t how you fight it, is the point. Getting worked up is exactly the goal. Go outside. All of you.
Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by samsari on Monday August 17, 2026 @08:46AM (#49329964)
Are you as familiar with "condescending" as you are with "passive aggressive"?
Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by hinkley on Monday August 17, 2026 @01:25PM (#49334551)
I am not being condescending. I save that for folks who start it. You don’t want to see me being condescending. Well actually you do, as long as it’s not aimed at you and you get popcorn.
Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by llm_nerd on Monday August 17, 2026 @08:48AM (#49329987)
Who is getting worked up? Who is "outraged", or looking to "manufacture" it?

I mean, the only person these descriptions apply to in this discussion is you.

Google's blog title is weird. Every normal human being that speaks English will find it weird. Maybe the author is on the spectrum, or maybe they thought their humour would carry better in a technical blog. Your agreement with this is not at all our concern.

Maybe you should go outside and settle down?

Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by otterley on Monday August 17, 2026 @09:08AM (#49330236)
> This isn’t how you fight it, is the point

Social condemnation has always been used to help keep the behavior of a group within certain acceptable bounds. Whether it's as effective in today's world of ever-escalating attention-seeking competition as it once was is questionable, though.

> Getting worked up is exactly the goal.

I don’t know who you think is worked up here, but it’s not me. I was merely expressing what impression the author’s choice of words left on me. And clearly I wasn’t alone in that regard. You are the one who chose to attack me as “projecting.”

...

You are getting a lot of feedback that you are the one who is mistaken here. Have you considered digesting it instead of defensively escalating?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2f/3c/dd/2f3cddbe0d3b383ee6d3...

Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by hinkley on Monday August 17, 2026 @01:23PM (#49334514)
You’re all here to clutch pearls. This has all turned into virtue signalling over a title. There are better things to be doing with your day. It doesn’t matter to you that they have no shame and it will roll off them like water off a ducks back?

Have you ever tried to shame a narcissist, or someone with BPD? It definitely does not work on them. They just try to destroy your life for you. The way to deal with that sort is, don’t deal with them at all. Give them nothing until they get bored and leave. If you count it all up there’s rather a lot of people for whom making it your job to control them is a bad outcome for everyone involved. It’s a generalization that has important exceptions.

Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by antonvs on Monday August 17, 2026 @04:18PM (#49337005)
“Virtue signaling” is a term narcissists and psychopaths use when they encounter criticism they don’t like.

I’m commenting because the post title was obnoxious and deserved to be called out. “Virtue signaling” has nothing to do with it. When someone insults me, even as part of a group, I don’t promise to sit idly by.

No, it doesn’t matter to me that you apparently have no shame and will rationalize this criticism. I’m saying it because you and the OP deserve it, and if we don’t push back on this sort of bullshit, it’ll only get worse.

Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by otterley on Monday August 17, 2026 @02:24PM (#49335439)
> You’re all here to clutch pearls. This has all turned into virtue signalling over a title.

I disagree with your characterization, but you do you, I guess.

> There are better things to be doing with your day.

Perhaps so. There are probably better things for everyone on HN to be doing instead. Nevertheless, as autonomous people, we can choose our own priorities. I, for one, don't appreciate being told how to spend my time.

> Have you ever tried to shame a narcissist, or someone with BPD? It definitely does not work on them.

To be sure, a punch in the mouth may be more effective.

Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by hinkley on Monday August 17, 2026 @02:37PM (#49335653)
> To be sure, a punch in the mouth may be more effective.

HAH! Not all of us are big enough to get away with it, but you're not wrong.

Well, also there's been a lot of feedback on both sides. I wasn't the first one to suggest that the rabble rousing was misplaced here. So, I guess we are both guilty of ignoring feedback.

Re:Protobuf has LSP support. You're welcome by Dylan16807 on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:37PM (#49336463)
> the common passive-agressive use of "you're welcome"

That exists.

> in exactly the kind of context the OP article uses it

I do not agree.