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Re:SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites – fo... by davrosthedalek on Saturday July 11, 2026 @12:14AM (#48868674)
Lightspeed in air is close to c_vacuum. Light speed in fiber is roughly 2/3 c_vacuum. So for transatlantic it might be faster.
Re:SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites – fo... by rckclmbr on Saturday July 11, 2026 @01:58AM (#48869193)
Let’s see if we can bring the cost of hollow core fiber down, it would be faster transatlantic even
Re:SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites – fo... by db48x on Saturday July 11, 2026 @02:42AM (#48869419)
Often the bigger difference is just that fiber never goes in a straight line, even if it’s going to the right city. All that pesky geography gets in the way and makes the path longer.
Re:SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites – fo... by dizhn on Saturday July 11, 2026 @09:32AM (#48871929)
As far as I can tell it almost exclusively follows the existing roads in Europe. Probably an easier way to secure rights in one go like rails used to be for telco lines.
Re:SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites – fo... by inemesitaffia on Saturday July 11, 2026 @10:41AM (#48872469)
Pipelines, Sewer systems, rail too.
Re:SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites – fo... by db48x on Saturday July 11, 2026 @07:11PM (#48876724)
Geography and property lines, twin banes of every infrastructure builder.
Re:SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites – fo... by bigfatkitten on Monday July 13, 2026 @06:32AM (#48890559)
And because getting heavy plant up through a mountain range to dig trenches etc is a pain in the arse. It’s easier to do it along a main road.
Re:SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites – fo... by db48x on Monday July 13, 2026 @04:21PM (#48898254)
If you were smart about it then you wouldn’t go up in the mountains in the first place. To get the lowest possible latency you want a straight shot, so obviously you should just bore your way through at the level of the plains on either side.
Re:SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites – fo... by pferde on Saturday July 11, 2026 @02:59AM (#48869491)
Unless you're trying to do something like high frequency stock trading, this does not really matter. Most of the added latency is added in the hops themselves, as packets are being classified and routed. Your generic Internet user won't be able to see any difference.
Re:SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites – fo... by snickerbockers on Saturday July 11, 2026 @10:24AM (#48872339)
You need to take error into account, too. Can atmospheric conditions corrupt the transmission (this is not a rhetorical question, I actually don't know)? If so then your latency and bandwidth will both suffer.

EDIT: also, in the very likely case that the packet is not addressed to the satellite itself, routing comes into play. In the best-case scenario where the satellite is somehow able to transmit the packet directly to its destination the distance it travels is actually doubled. If the packet instead gets transmitted from the satellite to a base-station which then routes it through fiber-optics then there's no point in trying to argue that the satellite connection is the faster of the two even if that is true.