Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by Anon1096 on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @01:34PM
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Most likely the building gets stabilized and then anyone involved gets embroiled in lawsuits and it stays standing half finished for years. One Seaport is a famous recent example of an under construction skyscraper getting halted for structural issues. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/161_Maiden_Lane
Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by dlcarrier on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @06:06PM
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They have something like that in San Francisco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/301_Mission_Street) but they key to finishing it is to not tell anyone it's crooked until after you've sold all of the units.
Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by ErroneousBosh on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @01:32PM
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Tie every helicopter you can find to the roof, gas the bent bit off, haul it away and drop it somewhere?
They'll likely shore it up with hydraulic props - probably going through the floor and ceiling to floor slabs above and below - to stabilise it, and then start demolishing the building bit by bit.
Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by hagbard_c on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:11PM
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In that case the helicopters lower in the pecking order will chop off the strings for the higher ones. I thing seagulls is a better idea, if it worked for a giant peach it should work for a building. Plenty of those around and they'll work for peanuts.
Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by SilverElfin on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @01:19PM
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Given all the bad press around things like the millennium tower, I think once you have an issue like this, the building is done. No one will want to live there. And given structural problems with load bearing beams, I would expect the building has to be demolished. But maybe they can demolish it top down partially and rebuild up from the compromised area if the city and engineers deem that safe.
Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by fiatpandas on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @01:33PM
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Knocking down a building like this will be a huge pain, extremely expensive, and very dangerous. I think you can assume the developers will try desperately to retrofit the building before demo. There’s good precedence for this even in New York City. Look into the Citicorp case study.
Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by pram on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @01:51PM
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I'm not an expert but those look like pretty wimpy columns? Kind of surprising, when I worked in a tower it had exposed concrete columns that were very thick in comparison
Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by kylehotchkiss on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @03:23PM
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The USA is mostly empty space. Trying to force upwards in such an already dense area just doesn't make sense. We are not constrained the way singapore is.
Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by ChrisLTD on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @10:25AM
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It's illegal to build dense cities like Manhattan in most of the United States. And while most people want to live in a Manhattan'esque area, plenty (like me) do.
Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by comrade1234 on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @03:44PM
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They're adding a hunch of floors to an existing building - it was the old Pfizer headquarters and they want to turn it into apartments. Someone either didn't do the proper engineering study, or the original specs weren't accurate.
Figuring out who to blame will probably take years in court.
Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by dlcarrier on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:57PM
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More often than a faulty initial design, it's because of a something not being followed, e.g. the design called for one type of material or process and another was used during construction, either on accident or on purpose but without correctly doing the math to verify that it will work.
Re:Midtown Manhattan blocks evacuated after beams buckling a...
by dehrmann on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @12:13PM
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This makes a case for engineering margins, maybe even running the numbers assuming a worse grade of steel or bolts than specified. Also worth remembering this building wasn't special. If this was a design or construction flaw that surfaced with added load, a lot of other buildings from that era probably have a similar issue.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48820971
They'll likely shore it up with hydraulic props - probably going through the floor and ceiling to floor slabs above and below - to stabilise it, and then start demolishing the building bit by bit.
Beams are horizontal and columns are vertical.
They are buckling because the floors and ceilings are bending!
Scroll down and there is a picture of a much thicker support pillar, though still seems thin? Maybe just the context in frame doesn't do it justice.
Figuring out who to blame will probably take years in court.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1995/05/29/the-fifty-nine...