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Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by teravor on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @03:49PM (#48664827)
mythos allowed mediocre people to get results by holding their hand through the process, or just ignoring their irrelevant input and knowing what to do.

if you throw millions of tokens at IDA Pro MCP with the right prompt lets just say security by obscurity fails miserably because there is no obscurity when the LLM chews through the decompilation.

Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by baq on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @04:08PM (#48664995)
It isn’t bad, it isn’t good. It’s just how the world looks now. All software is open source now, some of it is just more open, some of it is less.
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Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by robocat on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @06:49PM (#48666532)
> law enforcement wasn’t able to keep up with those people

Law enforcement is almost irrelevant to cause and effect. Enforcing laws between jurisdictions mostly requires military or heavy economic incentives.

Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by joe_mamba on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @05:07PM (#48665651)
>mythos allowed mediocre people to get results by holding their hand through the process

Isn't this what technology progress looks like? Industrial tools allowed mediocre people to improve their productivity by orders of magnitude which is how we managed(in the past) to build so many amazing things with less human toil and suffering than previous generations.

Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by imdsm on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @05:10PM (#48665681)
Progress isn't always welcome by the incumbent who have built their moats on hoarding knowledge over being adaptable
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by losteric on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @07:19PM (#48666744)
It seems like AI is really hurting the people who don't have a hoard of experience - the juniors and early mid-level tech people.

The incumbents with experience are doing amazing. PM's with Mythos aren't replacing the PE with 20 years of experiences lol.

Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by pixl97 on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @07:27PM (#48666789)
I mean that is what most technology looked like at first too.
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by dlmanning on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:07PM (#48667525)
Oh okay. So where's the point where AI starts to encourage the development of a new useful skill set among people early in their careers?
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by dlmanning on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:04PM (#48667499)
Not all of us think encouraging people to outsource their own thinking to proprietary models is actually "progress."
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by interstice on Thursday June 25, 2026 @04:52AM (#48670782)
Are you saying programmers aren't adaptable? I don't think I've ever seen this field pause to take a breath.
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by virtualritz on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @07:05PM (#48666652)
> mythos allowed mediocre people to get results by holding their hand through the process,

Yes, just like early cars allowed mediocre horse riders to get from A to B with dignity.

Or like my Japanese rice cooker allows a person like me, utterly shitty at preparing this, to eat some rice that is cooked to perfection.

Etc.

Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by greggsy on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @07:40PM (#48666876)
I mean, the calculator is my go to analogy I keep bringing up in this debate.

It lets someone with mediocre long division skills to just do the thing they need to do with fewer steps and less friction.

IDA itself is a tool that helps you decompile code without having to do a lot of things.

Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by teravor on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @08:57PM (#48667449)
knowing long division does not help you make the calculator do division better.
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by dlmanning on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:02PM (#48667485)
Understanding math absolutely makes a calculator more useful to you though.
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by teravor on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:05PM (#48667508)
and if you work that into the parent's analogy you get the point I was making
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by dlmanning on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:10PM (#48667551)
Apologies. I misread the comment to which you replied and gave them unwarranted credit for not making the same tired point about calculators.
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by ai_fry_ur_brain on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @07:42PM (#48666893)
Should mediocre people be preforming heart surgery?
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by p-e-w on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @07:53PM (#48666978)
Lots of mediocre people already are.
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by garyfirestorm on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @07:55PM (#48666996)
It depends. Mediocre doctor in a remote area with right tooling assistance as opposed to no one being available for someone who urgently needs one? Yeah this should be a thing. Should a software bro in NY perform it in dark alley despite having best doctors few blocks away? Maybe not…
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by gaiagraphia on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @08:54PM (#48667427)
I'm sure many 'mediocre' people perform heart surgery. Only 100 years ago, the idea of a person without a certain surname or race, would've been a ghastly preposition, no?
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by dlmanning on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:06PM (#48667512)
Do you... think heart surgery has become LESS dependent on surgical skill in the last 100 years? Cardiovascular surgeons spend MORE time in training now than they did 100 years ago.
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by gaiagraphia on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:44PM (#48667817)
Did heart surgery as we know it exist 100 years ago, or are you trying to conflate things to make a point?

"heart surgery" isn't a technique". Name something, literally anything connected to the profession, and tell me whether the training time is naturally bound to keep going up and up.

Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by gaiagraphia on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @08:21PM (#48667211)
"mediocre people"

I'm glad to see the mask is falling off the privileged caste.

Is there anything inherently wrong about open access to tools? (Apart from rent payments).

Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by dlmanning on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @08:40PM (#48667323)
The "privileged caste" being people who actually expended the effort to learn things for themselves?
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by gaiagraphia on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @08:48PM (#48667383)
And such people learnt everything from the beginning? From fire?

Where's the cut off point of where learning something for yourself becomes the signal for entrance to the enlightened caste?

Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by dlmanning on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @08:58PM (#48667457)
It's the point where you expend effort to learn a useful skill.
Re:NSA Lost Access to Powerful A.I. Model Amid Anthropic Dis... by djhn on Thursday June 25, 2026 @12:43AM (#48669004)
> (Apart from rent payments).

Privilege enables you to rent competence, historically by paying other people. The slop companies will now sell you a simulacrum of competence by the token.

The fact that competence can (could?) only be acquired through sustained effort over a long period of time is (was?) levelling the field.

Selling simulated competence perpetuates privilege, instead of dismantling it like you seem to claim.