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Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by globular-toast on Sunday June 21, 2026 @02:58AM (#48616348)
I'm considering the same thing. I've done the "contact your MP" thing, but it's a waste of time. You just receive a pre-written letter from some minimum wage assistant (or maybe just a bot).

It's either that or I just consider the internet dead and move on. It's nothing like it was 20 years ago anyway. There are other things to do. Many books to read and places to go. We had something really cool and we were lucky to experience it while it lasted, but it's gone now.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by echelon_musk on Sunday June 21, 2026 @05:36AM (#48617238)
> consider the internet dead and move on. It's nothing like it was 20 years ago anyway. There are other things to do. Many books to read and places to go. We had something really cool and we were lucky to experience it while it lasted, but it's gone now.

I'm pretty much at this stage too. The web/internet was a frontier like the Wild West. But those wild days are gone and are never coming back. Cyberspace has been settled.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by gizajob on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @05:53PM (#48666066)
The web is only a minuscule part of cyberspace. Once millions of people have an AI supercomputer running a graphical node at home in 3-10 years time, then cyberspace will finally start IMO. The web will look like a catalogue file in comparison.
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by mplewis on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @06:20PM (#48666298)
don't be a crank
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by gizajob on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @07:58PM (#48667024)
Useful feedback thanks.
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by farnsworthfusor on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @08:56PM (#48667445)
What will it do?
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by andai on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:47PM (#48667838)
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by verzali on Sunday June 21, 2026 @07:53AM (#48618101)
Depends on your MP. I have received surprisingly detailed responses to some of my past letters.

If they can't be arsed to answer you, then you shouldn't be arsed to vote for them, at least in my opinion.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by benj111 on Thursday June 25, 2026 @04:30AM (#48670600)
Yes definitely. I had one MP for 4 years that would personally reply at all hours. I was getting replies at 10pm. I felt the need to tell him off and turn his phone off. But the other 2 I've interacted with were useless.
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by cedws on Monday June 22, 2026 @06:48AM (#48628430)
It’s hard to feel any enthusiasm for democracy watching things you disagree with being pushed through and having no power to stop it. I signed the petition to reverse the OSA and all we got was a canned response.

I’ve come to the conclusion the only thing you can really do is leave when you disagree with the direction of your country, but of course not everyone has the ability to do that.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by nozzlegear on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @07:36PM (#48666850)
> It’s hard to feel any enthusiasm for democracy watching things you disagree with being pushed through and having no power to stop it.

That often is democracy: what's popular isn't always what's best.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by lokar on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:52PM (#48667866)
I find that many comments on this subject here don’t seem to consider that a majority (perhaps a large majority) of citizens in their nation support these policies
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by marcus_holmes on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:07PM (#48667963)
Because they don't understand the technology or the consequences.

When they do, they will change their mind (and probably protest loudly that they never wanted it in the first place).

See Brexit for a clear example.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by lokar on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:57PM (#48668284)
But the argument I see is that the politicians are acting tyrannically against the desire of the voters.
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by marcus_holmes on Thursday June 25, 2026 @03:15AM (#48670018)
some voters. The voters who actually understand the technology and the consequences
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by zugi on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:08PM (#48667972)
That's why democracy shouldn't be worshipped as the end-all be-all key to good government or good society. Or as Churchill put it, democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.

Freedom and liberty should be the foundations of a healthy society. Democracy should be reserved only for those things that must be decided collectively and universally enforced.

What kids do on their phones doesn't even come close. Let parents and vendors decide what their kids and customers can do. I've met plenty of well-adjusted kids who aren't on social media because their parents don't let them.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by marcus_holmes on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:05PM (#48667953)
This is what protest is for/about.

If enough people feel strongly about it to go onto the street and wave placards, that starts getting noticed and has to be acknowledged.

Of course, the UK (and others) have started making protests illegal, because they are doing things that we should feel strongly enough about to go and wave placards at them.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by leoedin on Thursday June 25, 2026 @09:35AM (#48673167)
The problem I've found is that enough people don't feel strongly about it.

I've had plenty of conversations recently where people say "yeah, but social media is harming kids. Banning it is good". People broadly see the headline "think of the children" and think, "yup, let's protect children".

To me, there's all sorts of downsides - the death of small discussion forums, pushing interesting online experiences out of the reach of teenagers, the creeping surveillance and, worst of all, the complete end of the open internet (when inevitably it doesn't actually work). But most non-tech people just don't see that.

The currently in place age verificaton system is a joke. It's trivial to circumvent them - not just via VPN, but also because there's countless websites that just don't care. The social media ban will bring more of the same - and then they'll have to ban VPNs and bring in website firewalls.

Who wins? The established tech companies, who have big enough legal departments to comply with increasing red tape. How is a new social network going to legitimately compete with Facebook now?

But when I say all this to people I know, they just don't see it. Most people are not tech people.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by marcus_holmes on Thursday June 25, 2026 @09:08PM (#48681209)
100% agree.

And because I don't have kids, I'm presumed to not have any skin in the game - like the websites are not going to ask me my age or something.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by pjc50 on Thursday June 25, 2026 @05:46AM (#48671188)
I do think people should consider trying a bit harder to change the opinions of their fellow citizens. Yes, this is a lot of work; yes, I've mostly delegated this myself by paying money to the Open Rights Group. But if you start from the position that everyone else is a newspaper-brainwashed idiot then of course it's going to look a bit dark.

I also think there's more of what I'd call "grassroots British libertarianism" than you'd expect. It's just in tension with Daily Mail-ism, often in the same people. They just don't want onerous rules applied to them.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by matthewmorgan on Thursday June 25, 2026 @07:34AM (#48671936)
Do you ever spend time thinking about your own opinions, or just other people's?
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by pjc50 on Thursday June 25, 2026 @08:05AM (#48672170)
?
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by TacticalCoder on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @06:18PM (#48666281)
> We had something really cool and we were lucky to experience it while it lasted, but it's gone now.

You can also recreate a smaller network and enjoy it as a silo, disconnected from the Internet, at times.

There's no need to be off the grid 24/7 to feel the relief.

It's deeply relaxing to pull the (Internet) plug (I do, literally, physically remove one ethernet cable from a switch right underneath my monitor and I've then got several machines happily communicating only on the LAN: no more Internet).

Maybe I'm having fun with my latest acquisition: modelling parts to fix stuff left and right around the house by 3D printing them (I bought a 3D printer for that: I had many things I needed to fix and I knew I'd be able to fix them properly by printing adequate parts). No need for the Internet to model, slice and 3D print.

Such an activity does feel like the computing of yore: it takes me back to a time when it was me and a 8-bit machine. Creating stuff "by code" (which now take physical form at home, which 11-years old me would have find utterly mindboggling btw).

> There are other things to do. Many books to read and places to go.

And hobbies. As a kid from the eighties I love cars from the late 80s/very early 90s: not much electronics, not spying on you. Sure they're a bit of gaz guzzlers but then half the fun is fixing stuff on them and the other half is talking about them with other enthusiasts: there's no need to drive 10 000 kilometers a year with those.

When you take time to disconnect a bit from the Internet, then I'd say when you're online (like I'm now) it all feels way more tolerable.

No need to go full luddite IMO but YMMV.

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by bigiain on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @08:44PM (#48667353)
> It's deeply relaxing to pull the (Internet) plug (I do, literally, physically remove one ethernet cable from a switch right underneath my monitor and I've then got several machines happily communicating only on the LAN: no more Internet).

> Maybe I'm having fun with my latest acquisition: modelling parts to fix stuff left and right around the house by 3D printing them

Isn't California proposing to put you in jail for having a 3D printer without an internet connection to tattle on you and killswitch your printer if some unaccountable internet service decides you're printing something "bad"?

:sigh:

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by HDBaseT on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @08:45PM (#48667359)
>Many books to read and places to go

You cannot travel into the US without providing access to your Social Media accounts. Pretty likely you get denied if you say "I don't have social media".

Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by bargainbin on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:02PM (#48667487)
Incorrect, I don't have social media and tell them as such, it's never an issue.
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by lokar on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:48PM (#48667846)
Are they asking? I know they said they would, it I’ve not seen reports of it happening
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by account42 on Thursday June 25, 2026 @08:34AM (#48672426)
They have been asking for well over a year at least for ESTA with GitHub being one possible pre-defined social media type in the form.
Re:Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside th... by Chu4eeno on Thursday June 25, 2026 @01:36AM (#48669368)
Good thing I left my abandoned facebook/twitter/instagram accounts undeleted a decade ago.