US still has the second amendment and the most guns per person of any country in the world (more than 10x the average), yet I don't see anybody "fight back against the benefactors"

The people who are really into guns and the second amendment are somehow on the side of their oppressors.

few years ago they weren't

Ffs, Trump is not an oppressor. You're not helping by pointlessly exaggerating things, you'll only derail the discussion.

Yeah if you're straight and white he's not

You're brainrotten if you unironically think gay and Non-white people are being oppressed.

You either have lost touch with reality so far to be unable to understand what "oppressed" means or you're just parotting someone else who suffers from that affliction.

> You either have lost touch with reality so far to be unable to understand what "oppressed" means or you're just parotting someone else who suffers from that affliction.

This 100% applies to you. If you can’t see ICE actions as oppressive, you’ve definitely lost touch with reality.

ICE is just enforcing law. Also they're enforcing the law regardless of the skim color. There are plenty of white people which have been removed from the USA by ICE, consequently invalidating the previous thesis of it being about white/straight people.

Complete brainrot...

> ICE is just enforcing law.

"This changed in June 2025, just weeks after White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, reportedly frustrated with the slow increase in ICE arrests, called the head of every ICE Field Office into a room in Washington, DC and ordered them to “just go out there and arrest illegal aliens.” Following this meeting, the Trump administration launched its first splashy raid of an American city, sending hundreds of agents into Los Angeles and sparking fiery confrontations between protestors and federal agents." [0]

That's what you're talking about when you say "just enforcing the law"?

> Also they're enforcing the law regardless of the skim color.

"Publicly available ICE and research datasets show clear shifts in who is being arrested and detained—large growth in interior arrests and detention of people without U.S. criminal convictions and major variation across states—but they do not provide a consistent, complete public breakdown of ICE arrests and detention by race and nationality at the county level, so any precise county-level racial or national origin tallies are not available from the cited public sources." [1]

So how do you know that? Are you just guessing? You're accusing me of the exact thing you're doing. Honestly it sounds to me like you're the one suffering from some serious brainrot.

[0]: https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/ice-arrest-s...

[1]: https://factually.co/fact-checks/justice/ice-arrests-detenti...

The US has plenty of guns. The idea that there aren't sufficient guns for some kind of armed resistance is absurd. The issue is cultural - we'd apparently rather fire them off in schools and malls and movie theaters.

how useful will those guns be against an army of AI driven drones

just look at what's going on in Ukraine right now

More than you'd think but it'd get unbelievably ugly. Reign of terror would look like a cakewalk.

> D takes away guns from the population so they can't effectively fight back against the benefactors

Please remind us when Democrats have "taken away guns", and while you're at it when were those small arms last used to fight back against a tyrannical government?

Not in the US, and not addressing whether the governments controlled were tyrannical or not (in many cases the rebels were definitely bad) but there are lots of wars around the world that were started by people with small arms and home made bombs that built up into full scale wars.

Brady bill? Blue states and cities making it impossible to conceal carry?

Neither of those are "taking away your guns" and you forgot to answer my second question. Is concealed carry essential to overthrow a tyrannical government?

It raises the risks for the enforcers taking a paycheck to oppress the [subset of the] population. Bullies think twice when they can be punched square in the face.

Riiiiight, it doesn't just make the bully invest billions in military grade weapons to be used against civilians. Soon you'll have superdrones with superguns patrolling the US and you will still be clinging to your right to carry a musket.

2A people don't want the right to carry a musket, they want the right to those same superdrones. You are framing their desires in bad faith.

I find that incredibly hard to believe.

You're right they don't want to carry a musket, but that's because muskets are not sexy. They don't want superdrones either, because superdrones are not sexy.

2A people just like guns. Guns, culturally, are sexy.

I don't think it's sexy, though I wish people would stop using this word for things like... war machines. Gun culture is just a subculture in the US, and I agree weaponized drones aren't 1:1 with guns to gun nuts.

I don’t think they’re sexy either.

Taking that argument to absurd levels we should only sit and wait for the first school nuking then.