Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by mlazos on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:01PM (#48492995)

The idea of them purposefully wasting my time by having the model act dumber and me having to argue with it without knowing if it’s the prompt or the model was just such an idiotic product decision I can’t believe they shipped that without getting any feedback from users first.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by whimsicalism on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:05PM (#48493061)

it's not a product decision, it's a safety decision. if you understood what they think they are building and the culture inside of anthropic you would understand why they did it.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by michaelcampbell on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:17PM (#48493257)

Safety from what? Competitors? That sounds like a product decision. They're puking on any requests that could be used to create LLMs or competitive products.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by trunnell on Thursday June 11, 2026 @03:33PM (#48495330)

To prevent their models from doing harm in dual-use contexts including CBRN or by accelerating research in authoritarian-backed AI labs.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by JTbane on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:26PM (#48493421)

I would guess prevention of using Claude as a pentesting or hacking platform. This could mean that every script kiddie out there would be a massive risk.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by knollimar on Thursday June 11, 2026 @04:48PM (#48496198)

Anything to prevent mecha ai hitler. At all costs

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by 3fffa on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:33PM (#48493534)

Are you seriously stupid? They need to jack up revenues vs cost to deliver higher gross profits and operating profits. This is pure strategic manipulation.

God, how naive do you have to be? They are a business fighting for survival given they are money losing.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by whimsicalism on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:37PM (#48493606)

You are just completely wrong about what the driving motives are and an asshole to boot.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by km3r on Thursday June 11, 2026 @03:33PM (#48495322)

How does degrading responses to a cheaper tier jack up revenues?

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by efromvt on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:17PM (#48493271)

I think you can sympathize with the safety motives while still thinking this was a dumb implementation to degrade silently? I actually have faith in them getting the guardrail triggers pretty good, but consensus seems like they’re not yet there yet.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by whimsicalism on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:22PM (#48493355)

I think it is clear given the stakes why you would not want to make your guardrails probe-able/invertable.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by Rapzid on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:26PM (#48493420)

The road to hell is paved with "good" intentions.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by fooker on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:27PM (#48493431)

> if you understood what they think they are building and the culture inside of anthropic you would understand why they did it.

This seems like a cult with extra steps.

Related: I interviewed for Anthropic a few months ago and in place of the usual HR call they have one where they have someone with a suspiciously relevant degree grill you about how committed you are to the 'mission'!

I probably came off as being skeptical, and then, hilariously, I was strongly encouraged to read the book published by the CEO to 'form accurate opinions' on AI safety.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by largbae on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:22PM (#48493359)

We do understand why they did it, and the reason is dark and cynical.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by j-bos on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:23PM (#48493370)

Don't buy it. It is actively deceiving the customer and charging them for the privilige of being lied to.

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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by deadbabe on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:18PM (#48493276)

They did it to make more money as you waste more time burning tokens with bad responses.

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