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Re:Notes on DeepSeek by hsuduebc2 on Wednesday June 10, 2026 @12:24PM (#48478704)
Because they are subsidized by the Chinese government. This is literally a tactic to destroy global competition.

It's a smart move to make everyone dependent on them.

Re:Notes on DeepSeek by throawayonthe on Wednesday June 10, 2026 @02:15PM (#48480403)
1. this seems to be based on misconceptions about how the chinese economy works 2. why haven't they done it yet? is the implication that they will wait until they're dominant in some x number of industries worldwide and then... raise prices?

p.s. how would such "subsidization" work on a such a scale? if you think the EVs, PV panels, etc are cheap because the govt like, just covers the loss on every sale(?) where do they get all that surplus finance to cover labour and resources?

have you considered 'subsidies' can be used for accelerating R&D for national interest rather than some monopolistic plot

Re:Notes on DeepSeek by T-A on Thursday June 11, 2026 @04:39AM (#48487843)
Re:Notes on DeepSeek by manishsharan on Wednesday June 10, 2026 @12:43PM (#48478988)
Any evidence to back that up?
Re:Notes on DeepSeek by xyzsparetimexyz on Wednesday June 10, 2026 @12:55PM (#48479186)
Fact 1: that's terror Fact 2: that's terror
Re:Notes on DeepSeek by hsuduebc2 on Wednesday June 10, 2026 @01:25PM (#48479621)
Re:Notes on DeepSeek by gmerc on Thursday June 11, 2026 @01:32AM (#48486560)
Now do Elon
Re:Notes on DeepSeek by deaux on Wednesday June 10, 2026 @11:16PM (#48485830)
Yes, they learnt this from the US, who subsidized Uber for _14 years_, Amazon for 9 years and Youtube for many years until they had destroyed global competition and made everyone dependent on them. This is now happening again with Anthropic and OpenAI, of course.

China's subsidies are comparatively much shorter.

Re:Notes on DeepSeek by jimbob45 on Thursday June 11, 2026 @12:27AM (#48486207)
YouTube has never seriously had competition and AliBaba has been around almost as long as Amazon.
Re:Notes on DeepSeek by deaux on Thursday June 11, 2026 @02:42AM (#48487030)
> YouTube has never seriously had competition

While saying this did you not consider that subsidized Chinese companies would claim the exact same, with at least the same amount of legitimacy? The whole idea of monopolization is that it becomes impossible for competition to arise.

You also forgot to mention Uber which has had numerous competitors, both on the taxi front as well as food delivery.

> AliBaba has been around almost as long as Amazon.

No idea why it matters how long a company has existed. There are hundreds of thousands of companies that have been around for 2-3 decades.

Re:Notes on DeepSeek by shimman on Thursday June 11, 2026 @12:09AM (#48486096)
How is this not any different than US corporations only existing do to hundreds of billions worth of corporate welfare? Good grief, why are American corporations such sore players against actual competition? US elites are absolutely pathetic.
Re:Notes on DeepSeek by Qhemlomo on Thursday June 11, 2026 @07:51AM (#48489111)
Sooo if youg ive a country cheap solar panels and they save money and make themselfs independent, how is that making them more dependent on China?

And how is that a bad thing in comparision to the current status quo?

Solar panels are not high tech. You can build them yourself as a state in worst case. You cant make oil if you don't have oil.