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Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by victorbjorklund on Friday May 08, 2026 @02:36PM (#48067014)
If I understand it the Lava lamps are 90% PR/fun. They have a lot of other sources for entropy that scales better.
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by euroderf on Friday May 08, 2026 @02:57PM (#48067251)
Ant farm ? Hamster wheels ? Anything critter-driven should provide some entropy.
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by BSVogler on Friday May 08, 2026 @03:02PM (#48067299)
I once read that noise of camera in total darkness is apparently a good source.
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by unilynx on Friday May 08, 2026 @03:12PM (#48067414)
The noise probably makes the lava lamp wall just as effective as pointing the camera at the Mona Lisa - the lamps themselves are not that unpredictable frame-to-frame.
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by LocalH on Friday May 08, 2026 @04:18PM (#48068242)
For the record, the lamps and camera are present in their lobby afaik, so you can actually go there, stand in front of them, and slightly affect the entropy.

A cool parlor trick, certainly.

Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by amelius on Friday May 08, 2026 @05:27PM (#48068990)
You can already have a good entropy source from a single resistor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson%E2%80%93Nyquist_noise

Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by pyuser583 on Saturday May 09, 2026 @11:39AM (#48075832)
This is what gets me - entropy is hard, but not that hard. I get it goes against everything a computer is built to do, but so does telling time.
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by wpm on Friday May 08, 2026 @11:14PM (#48071464)
Would a CRT TV tuned to channel 3 and no RF input be a good source?
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by ssl-3 on Saturday May 09, 2026 @06:39AM (#48073818)
In the sense that RF noise can be a source of entropy: Sorta*. But one doesn't need the whole thrift-store television set to do that; the visual aspect of a CRT displaying analog video snow just adds style points**.

*: Sorta, because if someone discovers that the entropy is derived from an analog TV tuned to channel 3, then they also know how to influence it from outside.

**: Style points can have value; it's OK to have fun with work. But that's a secondary function.

Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by nxobject on Sunday May 10, 2026 @02:01AM (#48081401)
I imagine that there might still be a way to swing by with RF equipment and tip the scales in your favor. And if you're important enough, I'm sure there'll be someone motivatd enough to do this. After all, Polymarket was motivating enough for someone to take a hair dryer to a weather station...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/23/hairdryer-or-l...

Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by iberator on Sunday May 10, 2026 @08:20PM (#48089602)
better to just switch to... random channel every while :) Not perfect but something.
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by FuriouslyAdrift on Friday May 08, 2026 @04:04PM (#48068023)
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by conception on Friday May 08, 2026 @04:40PM (#48068530)
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by throw-the-towel on Friday May 08, 2026 @04:57PM (#48068692)
Speaking of ants, Fourmilab (i.e. John Walker, of Autodesk fame) used to provide a random number generator powered by background radiation: https://www.fourmilab.ch/hotbits/
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by pverheggen on Friday May 08, 2026 @04:38PM (#48068496)
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by geon on Saturday May 09, 2026 @04:09AM (#48072998)
Wouldn’t thermal noise in a resistor make more practical sense?
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by drzaiusx11 on Saturday May 09, 2026 @09:45AM (#48074925)
I prefer cosmic microwave background radiation (CMBR) as my RNG of choice
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by iberator on Sunday May 10, 2026 @08:21PM (#48089608)
until someone uses microwave lol
Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by nyrikki on Friday May 08, 2026 @08:42PM (#48070567)
The original from SGI back in the mid 90's, before CPUs had RDRAND instructions etc... was a an actually practical solution.

At the time I was at the Internet company that originally got online-gaming banned in the US, we were looking at CCDs and Cesium emitters that required a license etc...

While I am not sure, it seems cloudflare basically implemented one after SGI's[0] patent expired.

The patent and the licensing cost and adding SGI was a major blocker for us doing it, the startup closed before we found a real solution. But the best PRNGs like Blum Blum Shub were way too slow at the time. But things did improve quickly at that time.

[0] https://patents.google.com/patent/US5732138A/en

Re:Ask HN: We just had an actual UUID v4 collision... by pyuser583 on Saturday May 09, 2026 @11:38AM (#48075826)
SGI was pretty amazing. I know some folks who worked there - Cray too. There’s a loyalty that just doesn’t exist any more - and arguably isn’t earned anymore.