But maybe I'm mistaken and they dont do that for marathon.
Do you have any evidence of this?
Like, if we find out the top two finishers here doped very few would be surprised.
That said - it's still an amazing accomplishment.
> Determined to prove he is competing clean, Adidas provided $50,000 (£36,900) to the Athletics Integrity Unit, the sport's anti-doping body, to frequently test Sawe over a 12-month period.
> That began with a reported 25 out-of-competition tests in the lead-up to Berlin in September, continuing at a similar rate as he prepared for London.
> Sawe said on Monday: "It's very important to me because it gets out the doubt in my career of athletics and yesterday's performance.
> "It shows Sabastian Sawe is clean. It shows running clean is good, and we can run clean and we can run faster.
It's not evidence either way, in the arms-race of high-tech doping.
This proves nothing, absolutely nothing at all. It's just a PR move by adidas and actually it seems to be working on you.
If you watch Kelvin Kiptum break the world record at the 2023 Chicago Marathon and Eluid Kipchoge break the world record in the 2022 Berlin Marathon, you see the joy and exasperation of their achievement.
That joy was missing in the winners of the London marathon. It's not evidence, but it's an interesting data point. Another data point: Not only did the first two finishers break two hours, the third place finisher, Jacob Kiplimo, broke the world record.
Still this seemingly detached "matter of a business" look by the winners was intriguing.
They are all high level athletes not Rosie Ruiz, but hopefully this record is clean.
One of the hardest place to climb and that was after hours of cycling, and weeks of racing.
Despite that, pogacar and his main competitor they looked so fresh. Like when you go do a country stroll. The others looked exhausted, some having saliva dipping of their mouth, but these 2 and maybe a few others had absolutely no sign of being tired.
He would later win the race, the tour de France, and many have serious doubt on him.
He regularly explodes climbing record held during EPO area by confirmed cheaters.
Personally that day I got confirmation that something ain't right.
Even ping pong, Adderall can be a tremendous help.
It's just that the other sports don't test as much, they are not worst or better.
Did you carry all of these bottles on a marathon? Did you have to stop to get them out of your bag? How did you find drinking whilst running?
I find gels much more compact and for the amount of time I need to run one - over 4 hours there's a lot of weight I need to carry. I can store a lot of them up front in my running vest and keep going.
I believe he had people from his staff handing him gels and water at designated point in his race. He wouldn't have to carry it all.
And I don't get why my solution of water + sugar is so bad. You're still going to drink water, you can't just eat gels during the whole race.
You might as well add sugar to the water that you are already going to drink anyway, this way you don't need to carry the gel.
I've never seen them run out of water though, and it would be a lot to carry for a marathon.
I've never read about that. So it's not "common knowledge" - except maybe in the running community.
I like your comment for putting some facts into place (how far you can go with common options). But as I never heard of this before, I have no idea how common it actually is and the effects and the science around it, what research does say to this, how and why this is used in other sports - or why not.
Now I just throw honey into water on my runs.
It doesn't upset me even though maurten does feel a little better, its worth saving tons of money over buying maurten
You a cyclist or have you been doing that from running?
From homemade concoctions… you can use maltodextrin for pure glucose.
I don't remember the exact ratio too, but just saying that it's nothing new and it doesn't explain in itself SAWE performance. Nor the light shoe.
At what point is this just a performance enhancing “drug” — what makes something a drug?
Some say it's testosterone, but we already got natural testosterone in our body. Just like creatin.
Maybe a drug is at the point where you put in your body something that it doesn't produce naturally. Like nandrolone, clenbuterol.
Honestly I thought I had a clear view too but the more I think about it the more I realize that we are a bit hypocrite.
You can make easily and cheaply at home a gel by boiling in water a mixture of corn starch with fructose. The best way is to do this for a few minutes in a microwave oven, because it is fast and reproducible.
This has the advantage that it does not feel so sweet as a sugar solution, which becomes unpleasant in too great quantities.
I am not aware of any other difference in the commercial gels, except that those use pre-digested starch, whose long molecules are broken in shorter molecules, for a decreased time until absorption. I doubt that this short absorption time is always an advantage, because it leads to wider fluctuations in the blood glucose level during periodic feeding.
That common knowledge, nothing revolutionary here.
There are 2 types of sugar, fructose and glucose, you can max out on glucose around 60g/hour and train you guts to max out also on fucose.
Personally I reached 90g/hour without training, no diarrhea or vomiting.
And you know the best ? White sugar in everyone kitchen is almost perfectly 50% glucose, 50% fructose.
You don't need 'advanced' gel to do that, a bottle of water with 120g of white sugar an hour.
And the shoes, yeah they're light but guess what. Other competitors also have sponsors and excellent shoes, some even run bare feet and yet they don't go faster.
No the real reason why he is able to run so fast is first excellent genetic, that's the common base.
Secondly, excellent training, coaching.
Third, his steroid/peds program is on point and his body is responding well to it.
Typically for endurance runner you want profiles with low natural hematocrit so you can max out on the EPO, but there are also other considerations. For instance, are his tendons responding well to GH and other peptides ?