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Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by Bjartr on Saturday April 25, 2026 @11:01PM (#47906868)
Based on that I'd guess either a meditation app company has figured out how to circumvent a lot of controls put in place by Apple, or it's a bug on Apple's side
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by a34729t on Saturday April 25, 2026 @11:47PM (#47907151)
Or it is a mandated backdoor, and someone internally objected, and made it easier to exploit than it should be, or leaked how to exploit it?
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by 8cvor6j844qw_d6 on Sunday April 26, 2026 @12:23AM (#47907327)
> mandated backdoor

Probably one from the repository of backdoors "accidentally" introduced or "never" discovered.

The mechanism's there, just needs to be woven with other exploits.

Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by jdiff on Sunday April 26, 2026 @09:02AM (#47909986)
Makes no sense for headspace to be using it if that were the case.
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by Barbing on Sunday April 26, 2026 @01:03PM (#47911837)
Conspiracy theory would get too convoluted:

Rogue employee employs the backdoor for a major app with hopefully conscientious users who’ll report it online; hopes to force a fix.

Or it was a social experiment and some dumb app reinstalls itself every day too but no one’s complained en masse yet! ;)

Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by 0123456789ABCDE on Sunday April 26, 2026 @10:53AM (#47910829)
what's the more likely explanation though?
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by Barbing on Sunday April 26, 2026 @01:03PM (#47911844)
bug
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by _-x-_ on Saturday April 25, 2026 @11:09PM (#47906925)
Yeah, I think the latter is more likely than the former. Perhaps a server side bug that's silently downloading the app on any device that's installed it previously?
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by donkey_brains on Saturday April 25, 2026 @11:44PM (#47907134)
But why this one specific app and no others?
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by _-x-_ on Saturday April 25, 2026 @11:55PM (#47907190)
Right, that's what confuses me the most. I was very surprised to find the reddit thread showing that other people are also having this specific app silently installed on their devices.
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by dd8601fn on Sunday April 26, 2026 @10:46AM (#47910784)
Makes me think something got jacked up adding/removing things from promotional bundles with other apps.

It shouldn’t do that, obviously, but headspace does seem like it’s one that bundles “free” with a bunch of health insurance, education, etc.

From a debugging perspective, without having Apples information, I kinda want to know if all affected users have some related health or education apps.

Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by breppp on Sunday April 26, 2026 @12:57AM (#47907504)
Headspace leaves health data, that's where my first guess would be
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by layer8 on Sunday April 26, 2026 @01:18AM (#47907586)
Maybe it’s Apple’s equivalent of Guru Meditation.
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by altairprime on Sunday April 26, 2026 @01:33AM (#47907643)
Maybe Apple typo’d an app id incorrectly for some iOS core app thing in 26.4.2 and the one-character error is this app? I don’t know that anyone’s done a ‘likelihood of collision’ analysis on appstore unique IDs yet. Certainly I could see iOS having a “must be on the device” system set up for apps like Phone and Settings that has a last-ditch of reinstalling it if somehow deleted. Would be especially interesting if some core app that can’t normally be deleted is currently unprotected (back up your device locally first!).
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by wincy on Sunday April 26, 2026 @09:34AM (#47910213)
Maybe it’s like that time Apple thought everyone wanted that awful free U2 album that they automatically added to everyone’s iTunes library. (I know this isn’t actually the case but it’s the funniest explanation)
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by theowaway on Sunday April 26, 2026 @11:40AM (#47911174)
that fucking thing still shows up on my phone from time to time. It's aural herpes
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by trinsic2 on Monday April 27, 2026 @01:19AM (#47917952)
I use VLC for my music. Did you know if you uninstall the music app you can't play music though another music app?
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by archon810 on Monday April 27, 2026 @07:25PM (#47928635)
Is this really true, I presume on iPhones? As an Android user, this sounds insane to me.
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by trinsic2 on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @05:06PM (#47954670)
On my Iphone. I removed the music app. and was unable to play music in my car with the usb interface. It had no app to play from. VLC must use the music player in some way to play the audio. This is without carplay btw. Im pretty sure carplay is differnt.
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by DANmode on Thursday April 30, 2026 @05:27AM (#47960098)
Chrome for iPhone is also only allowed to be reskinned Safari.

It’s a locked-down platform - slightly less so if you’re in the EU.

Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by mattmaroon on Sunday April 26, 2026 @10:59AM (#47910873)
Can’t be sure it isn’t others. This a very large app, so it may just be the one that gets noticed the most.
Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by trinsic2 on Monday April 27, 2026 @01:15AM (#47917929)
Maybe this is not the same thing but I had this happen to me with the ticktock app. It installed by itself. The only difference I can see between this situation and my own is I'm positive I never installed this app because I never used it.

It only happened one time though. After I uninstalled it, it never came back.

Re:Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhon... by joenot443 on Sunday April 26, 2026 @06:56AM (#47909258)
My guess is it's a bug on the App Store side which will actually hurt Headspace in the long run. If this was a casino app I'd feel a bit differently, but I'd be shocked if someone at Headspace did this deliberately.

I'm trying to imagine the headspace of a user who deletes an app, only to see it pop back the next morning. Probably not a very relaxing experience :)