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Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by dathinab on Monday April 13, 2026 @02:42PM (#47756244)
not buying that this isn't anti renewable propaganda for the US

the images in the article looks bad

until you take a short look at satellite images and realize:

- it's not the norm but the exception

- the photos are made to make it look maximally bad in a deceptive/manipulative way,

and that is even in context, that Denmark is a special case in that it both quite small and has little "dead" (not agriculturally efficiently usable land). And many old "culturally" protected houses where fitting solar on top of it is far more complicated/inefficient. Don't get me wrong it isn't the only special case, but there are very many countries which don't really have such issues.

Also quite interestingly this "iron fields" can be "not bad" from a nature perspective, at least compared to mono-culture with pesticide usage. Due to the plant and animal live below them. Through that is assuming people do extra steps to prevent that live.

Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by ZeroGravitas on Monday April 13, 2026 @03:23PM (#47756721)
There is an art to taking pictures of solar farms from exactly the right angle so that the panels seem continuous, often making use of deep shadows to cover the gaps.

It's similar to the telephoto shots of wind farms taken from far away that make them seem really close together.

Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by mellosouls on Monday April 13, 2026 @02:49PM (#47756316)
"not buying that this isn't anti renewable propaganda for the US"

Its the Guardian so that is a very unlikely motivation.

Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by Arn_Thor on Monday April 13, 2026 @03:18PM (#47756671)
_Something_ motivates them, though. They have been on a wild anti-solar bend the last year or more. Dozens of articles, all with the same anti-solar NIMBY bent
Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by andor on Tuesday April 14, 2026 @06:05AM (#47763535)
That's just your reading comprehension.

They are reporting on an anti-solar NIMBY movement and mention how the far-right is pushing the issue. That doesn't mean they share the same opinion.

Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by zipy124 on Monday April 13, 2026 @05:16PM (#47757925)
The guardian have previously been found to generate a significant amount of ad revenue from fossil fuel companies. They aren't politically aligned with it, but are financially. Remember that a large portion of the left in the UK are also anti-solar since they are pro-green nature and they have yet to make a choice on this.

P.s I am pro renewable and pro-solar/wind/nuclear just to clarify that this is nothing about my personal beliefs.

Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by signatoremo on Monday April 13, 2026 @06:13PM (#47758602)
Cite your source. The Guardian stopped accepting ads from the fossil industry 6 years ago - [0]

It is convenient to be suspicious against news that isn’t aligned with your views.

[0] - https://www.theguardian.com/help/insideguardian/2020/jan/29/...

Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by zipy124 on Tuesday April 14, 2026 @04:50PM (#47771333)
I'm aware of this policy. I cannot re-find the source, but there was an investigative piece somewhere that found they continued to take money from fossil-fuel aligned companies. I cannot find it after trying to look again admittably, though I am unsure if it because of my poor memory and that it didn't exist in the first place or because search engines are poor at this sort of thing. They do however continue to take ads from very high carbon industries like airlines and the such however.

They largely share my views, I am not suspicious because they don't align with my views, I am suspicious of all profit-motivated companies equally.

Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by deaux on Monday April 13, 2026 @10:53PM (#47760690)
Haha, the Guardian is just as much in bed with the capital class.
Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by zolland on Monday April 13, 2026 @03:05PM (#47756523)
The satellite photos of Hjolderup look worse than the photos in the article to me... the photos in the article seem like a fair representation of the consequences of installing solar fields like this--your house and town end up surrounded by solar panels.
Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by chrysoprace on Monday April 13, 2026 @06:49PM (#47758952)
Zoom out a bit though, and you quickly realise it's not the norm. There is vastly more farm land throughout the country and Hjolderup is the exception, not the rule.
Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by mort96 on Monday April 13, 2026 @02:50PM (#47756330)
I can't even read it because you either have to accept all tracking or pay a subscription fee. Pretty sure that's against the GDPR? Anyway, not a good look.
Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by soco on Monday April 13, 2026 @03:13PM (#47756601)
Isn't GDPR an EU thing?
Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by mort96 on Monday April 13, 2026 @03:19PM (#47756683)
Well an EU/EEA thing. And I'm in the EEA, so it applies when I visit The Guardian.
Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by masfuerte on Monday April 13, 2026 @05:42PM (#47758192)
It works fine with js disabled.
Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by testing22321 on Monday April 13, 2026 @02:52PM (#47756350)
100%

It also presents the draw man that solar can only go in huge fields that would otherwise grow food.

There are plenty of rooftops and car parks that can be covered in solar to excellent benefit.

Ie https://www.eventplanner.net/news/10582_largest-solar-carpor...

Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by ddellacosta on Monday April 13, 2026 @03:01PM (#47756467)
> It also presents the draw man that solar can only go in huge fields that would otherwise grow food.

> There are plenty of rooftops and car parks that can be covered in solar to excellent benefit.

It's worth calling this approach out too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrivoltaics

Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by dathinab on Monday April 13, 2026 @03:52PM (#47757011)
and field which have been damaged due to overuse and incorrect handling and preferable shouldn't be used for the next ~50 year
Re:'Yes to fields of wheat, no to fields of iron': how Denma... by lukeify on Monday April 13, 2026 @05:29PM (#47758059)
> - it's not the norm but the exception

I bet makes the person dealing with the outcome of being surrounded by them feel a lot better.