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Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by withinboredom on Friday March 27, 2026 @02:23AM (#47539592)
Opus 4.5 ~= Opus 4.6 high. Opus 4.5 was nerfed just before or after the release of 4.6.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by hhh on Friday March 27, 2026 @04:44AM (#47540315)
The models don’t change.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by tornikeo on Friday March 27, 2026 @04:50AM (#47540352)
On paper. There's huge financial incentive to quantize the crap out of a good model to save cash after you've hooked in subscriptions.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by armchairhacker on Friday March 27, 2026 @06:17AM (#47540870)
And there’s an incentive to publish evidence of this to discourage it, do you have any?
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by woadwarrior01 on Friday March 27, 2026 @07:23AM (#47541348)
There's this[1]. Model providers have a strong incentive to switch (a part of) their inference fleet to quantized models during peak loads. From a systems perspective, it's just another lever. Better to have slightly nerfed models than complete downtime.

[1]: https://marginlab.ai/trackers/claude-code/

Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by nl on Friday March 27, 2026 @07:31AM (#47541415)
So - as the charts say - no statistical difference?

Isn't this link am argument against the point you are making?

Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by withinboredom on Friday March 27, 2026 @08:47AM (#47542070)
The chart doesn't cover the 4.6 release which was in the end of December/early January time frame. So, it's hard to tell from existing data.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by nl on Sunday March 29, 2026 @02:42AM (#47560894)
That isn't true. The whole point it to quickly pick up statistically significant variations quickly, and with the volume of tests they are doing there is plenty of data.

If you turn on the 95% CI bands you can see there is plenty of statistical significance.

Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by withinboredom on Sunday March 29, 2026 @05:04AM (#47561517)
Unless you and I are looking at different web pages… it only goes back to February, not December or January.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by TeMPOraL on Friday March 27, 2026 @06:54AM (#47541123)
Models aren't just big bags of floats you imagine them to be. Those bags are there, but there's a whole layer of runtimes, caches, timers, load balancers, classifiers/sanitizers, etc. around them, all of which have tunable parameters that affect the user-perceptible output.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by natebc on Friday March 27, 2026 @07:12AM (#47541254)
There really always is a man behind the curtain eh?
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by coldtea on Friday March 27, 2026 @08:12AM (#47541750)
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by TeMPOraL on Friday March 27, 2026 @07:35AM (#47541436)
It's still engineering. Even magic alien tech from outer space would end up with an interface layer to manage it :).

ETA: reminds me of biology, too. In life, it turns out the more simple some functional component looks like, the more stupidly overcomplicated it is if you look at it under microscope.

Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by coldtea on Friday March 27, 2026 @08:11AM (#47541735)
Anybody with more than five years in the tech industry has seen this done in all domains time and again. What evidence you have AI is different, which is the extraordinary claim in this case...
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by seunosewa on Friday March 27, 2026 @01:53PM (#47546001)
Or just change the reasoning levels.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by esskay on Friday March 27, 2026 @05:22AM (#47540543)
Real world usage suggests otherwise. It's been a known trend for a while. Anthropic even confirmed as such ~6 months ago but said it was a "bug" - one that somehow just keeps happening 4-6 months after a model is released.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by yorwba on Friday March 27, 2026 @07:40AM (#47541472)
Real world usage is unlikely to give you the large sample sizes needed to reliably detect the differences between models. Standard error scales as the inverse square root of sample size, so even a difference as large as 10 percentage points would require hundreds of samples.

https://marginlab.ai/trackers/claude-code/ tries to track Claude Opus performance on SWE-Bench-Pro, but since they only sample 50 tasks per day, the confidence intervals are very wide. (This was submitted 2 months ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46810282 when they "detected" a statistically significant deviation, but that was because they used the first day's measurement as the baseline, so at some point they had enough samples to notice that this was significantly different from the long-term average. It seems like they have fixed this error by now.)

Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by nextaccountic on Friday March 27, 2026 @08:32AM (#47541930)
It's hard to trust public, high profile benchmarks because any change to a specific model (Opus 4.5 in this case) can be rejected if they have regressions on SWE-Bench-Pro, so everything that gets to be released would perform well in this benchmark
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by yorwba on Friday March 27, 2026 @09:03AM (#47542199)
Any other benchmark at that sample size would have similarly huge error bars. Unless Anthropic makes a model that works 100% of the time or writes a bug that brings it all the way to zero, it's going to work sometimes and fail sometimes, and anyone who thinks they can spot small changes in how often it works without running an astonishingly large number of tests is fooling themselves with measurement noise.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by coldtea on Friday March 27, 2026 @08:09AM (#47541723)
Only nominally...
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by fer on Friday March 27, 2026 @05:39AM (#47540633)
They do. I'm currently seeing a degradation on Opus 4.6 on tasks it could do without trouble a few months back. Obvious I'm a sample of n=1, but I'm also convinced a new model is around the corner and they preemptively nerf their current model so people notice the "improvement".
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by stavros on Friday March 27, 2026 @06:12AM (#47540842)
Make that 2, I told my friends yesterday "Opus got dumb, new model must be coming".
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by arcanemachiner on Friday March 27, 2026 @06:48AM (#47541078)
I swear that difference sessions will route to different quants. Sometimes it's good, sometimes not.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by girvo on Friday March 27, 2026 @05:57AM (#47540755)
I think the conspiracy theories are silly, but equally I think pretending these black boxes are completely stable once they're released is incorrect as well.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by coldtea on Friday March 27, 2026 @08:19AM (#47541809)
No conspiracy theories. Companies being scumbags, cutting corners, and doctoring benchmarks while denying it. Happens since forever.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by pixel_popping on Friday March 27, 2026 @05:33AM (#47540596)
Oh yes, they do.
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by scrollop on Friday March 27, 2026 @02:13PM (#47546255)
Re:$500 GPU outperforms Claude Sonnet on coding benchmarks by withinboredom on Friday March 27, 2026 @03:32PM (#47547189)
Well, I don't see 4.5 on there ... so I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

And today is a 53% pass rate vs. a baseline 56% pass rate. That's a huge difference. If we recall what Anthropic originally promised a "max 5" user https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/16157#issue... -- which they've since removed from their site...

50-200 prompts. That's an extra 1-6 "wrong solutions" per 5 hours ... and you have to get a lot of wrong answers to arrive at a wrong solution.