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Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by torginus on Thursday March 19, 2026 @08:41AM (#47438373)
But people who only own 1 house at most are still disadvantaged by this - sure, the value of their apt goes up, but if they want to switch to a larger house, the difference they're paying also increases, so do the property and wealth taxes, if applicable.

There are many stories of solidly low-to-middle class families who lived in an area where property prices soared, and had to choose between bankruptcy or moving out, because they could no longer.

The only people who benefit from this are the investors and landlords. So allowing housing prices to surge is literally taxing the poor for the benefit of the rich.

Buildings also deteroriate - ask a civil engineer. Building something that lasts 50-100 years is much cheaper than something that can be maintained economically indefinitely. If you own a house with copper or PVC plumbing, that they go bad after 40-50 years, and fixing burst pipes quickly gets expensive.

Why do countries allow housing prices to rise then? Simple, it allows banks to have a massive portfolio of loans, where they get a steady source of income for literally decades, while also getting a massive portfolio of real estate they can use as basis for leverage to grant loans (which they profit off of).

Governments can then tax the banks and get some of that money without the dreaded specter of increasing income taxes.

The only problem is that the everyman gets stuck with a 10,25, and now 50 year old loan (with a similar increase in price) for the very same median house.

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by lenwood on Thursday March 19, 2026 @08:51AM (#47438519)
> So allowing housing prices to surge is literally taxing the poor for the benefit of the rich.

How do we limit home prices increasing? I see your point but solving this isn't trivial.

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by exabrial on Thursday March 19, 2026 @09:06AM (#47438733)
Build more housing
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by testing22321 on Thursday March 19, 2026 @10:17AM (#47439910)
If investment companies that already own tens of thousands of homes buy them and keep increasing the rent, the problem has not been solved.
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by idbnstra on Thursday March 19, 2026 @11:32AM (#47441194)
land value tax would fix this
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by exabrial on Thursday March 19, 2026 @02:00PM (#47443332)
No, build more housing.
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by CWuestefeld on Thursday March 19, 2026 @03:35PM (#47444715)
That's not a different choice. LVT makes it more expensive to hold land that's less productive than it could be, the result of which is that development is encouraged.
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by exabrial on Thursday March 19, 2026 @04:55PM (#47445946)
No, building more housing. Read the article.
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by brazzy on Thursday March 19, 2026 @10:29AM (#47440164)
Except they cannot increase rents when there is enough supply for a market to actually work.
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by testing22321 on Thursday March 19, 2026 @11:15AM (#47440904)
The market will remain irrational longer than…

Of course they can when they own them all. See De Beers diamonds. Buy them all, keep the price artificially high.

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by nroets on Thursday March 19, 2026 @11:46AM (#47441404)
The De Beers cartel was able to avoid anti trust scrutiny because the best reserves are outside (Africa/Canada/Russia) of the most lucrative markets (US/Europe/Asia).

Corporations control only a small faction of housing supply.

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by larsiusprime on Thursday March 19, 2026 @11:31AM (#47441178)
Diamond prices are famously crashing now due to artificial lab made diamonds (increased supply)
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by matkoniecz on Thursday March 19, 2026 @12:10PM (#47441757)
Insanely stupid restrictions on residential construction make it easier.
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by exabrial on Thursday March 19, 2026 @02:04PM (#47443404)
They can only do that (own them all) with government assistance. See De Beers diamonds, who leveraged the legal system to create a monopoly.

The solution is to build more housing and get the government out of the picture.

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by Windchaser on Thursday March 19, 2026 @01:27PM (#47442833)
Investment companies own only about 2% of the housing market, and most of these are rented out. Investment companies aren't really the cause of housing prices remaining high - in moderate- and high-demand areas, we simply aren't building enough to keep up with demand.
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by exabrial on Thursday March 19, 2026 @01:59PM (#47443331)
You literally didn't read the article.

Build more housing.

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by SOLAR_FIELDS on Thursday March 19, 2026 @10:13PM (#47449586)
I do really enjoy all the arguments coming up in this post that are pretty easily defeated by “build more housing”. No one has been able to come up with a compelling argument about why this doesn’t work.
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by HDThoreaun on Thursday March 19, 2026 @05:49PM (#47446766)
Investing in housing only makes sense when supply is limited. The way to stop investors from hoarding housing is to make housing a bad investment by building a lot of it so cornering the market is impossible.
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by testing22321 on Thursday March 19, 2026 @10:15AM (#47439880)
Housing can not be both affordable and a good investment.

If we want housing to be affordable ie “limit them increasing” we have to stop people using them as investments.

There are many ways. My favourites are:

- one human can own one residential property. No companies or businesses can.

-or, property tax doubles (or 10x) with every residential property owned.

- no foreign ownership (Canada does this now)

- government can own and rent residential property at no profit. They supply plenty of other basic necessities of life, why not houses?

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by bombcar on Thursday March 19, 2026 @10:39AM (#47440331)
It can be both affordable and an investment - it cannot (and will not) perpetually be a market-beating top-tier investment.

All of the items above can have drastic unintended consequences; the way to keep prices affordable is to make sure that supply is always outstripping demand by a bit.

Some examples of unintended consequences:

* I can't add an ADU to my existing property which would add one more dwelling unit

* Subdivision of property is discouraged; combining parcels reduces tax even if no new dwelling units are created

* This might be the closest to doing something though it could substantially discourage non-citizen immigrants (legal or not)

* This has been tried before and had well-documented issues, but might be doable if they can provide a "floor"

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by deanishe on Thursday March 19, 2026 @11:58AM (#47441573)
> it could substantially discourage non-citizen immigrants (legal or not)

Make an exception for owner-occupiers?

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by bradchris on Thursday March 19, 2026 @01:47PM (#47443168)
So like what California did, which resulted in only a couple hundred thousand units over half a decade when they were hoping for/needing a couple million statewide.

Not the mention that ironically, the private owners with the space to build an ADU on their lot are the ones most likely to already be wealthy, and not actually rent it out to anyone below their socioeconomic bracket.

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by FuriouslyAdrift on Thursday March 19, 2026 @01:30PM (#47442882)
At least in the US, up until the rise of 'flipping' and AirBnB home values typically tracked with inflation. Personally owned real estate was a hedge against inflation and a tax shelter, not an 'investment'.
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by testing22321 on Thursday March 19, 2026 @02:23PM (#47443684)
> It can be both affordable and an investment

By definition if something is affordable, it’s not a good place to store money with the goal of it increasing.

> All of the items above can have drastic unintended consequences.

Yes, absolutely. These are not fully fledged solutions, but a starting point. Some of them may need an asterisk or two. Of course, unintended consequences are perfectly fine if the final result is better than what we have today

> I can't add an ADU to my existing property which would add one more dwelling unit

Your wife or kid could own it. If you don’t have either of those, you don’t need two homes.

> Subdivision of property is discouraged

Subdivision and sell is perfectly encouraged.

> This might be the closest to doing something though it could substantially discourage non-citizen immigrants (legal or not)

I am a non citizen immigrant in Canada. I just had to bide my time until I became a PR then could buy a house. Perfect.

> This has been tried before and had well-documented issues, but might be doable if they can provide a "floor"

Again, it doesn’t have to be perfect, just better than what we have now.

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by brazzy on Thursday March 19, 2026 @10:27AM (#47440134)
> one human can own one residential property. No companies or businesses can.

So, in other words, you want everyone who cannot afford to outright buy a house to be homeless?

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by FuriouslyAdrift on Thursday March 19, 2026 @01:30PM (#47442896)
This is what apartments are for...
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by testing22321 on Thursday March 19, 2026 @02:37PM (#47443862)
Not at all. The government should step on and rent them as rent to own systems. Make no profit
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by torginus on Thursday March 19, 2026 @12:23PM (#47441932)
Why should housing be an investment?
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by HDThoreaun on Thursday March 19, 2026 @05:50PM (#47446793)
Because we live in a democracy and voters want housing to be an investment because they own housing
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by torginus on Thursday March 19, 2026 @07:29PM (#47447954)
I own both a car and an apartment. The former is not an investment and most money people say you shouldn't consider the one you live in an investment.
Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by testing22321 on Thursday March 19, 2026 @09:15PM (#47449045)
The majority of voters would vote to make income tax zero, that doesn’t mean we should accept that simply because the majority wants it.

In the US the majority of voters just voted for a racist, homophobic pedophile convicted felon.That doesn’t mean everyone should shrug and say “it’s the will of the people”

I refuse to believe you would have this attitude if you and your family had to rent drinking water while people profited wildly from it.

The situation is unacceptable and needs to change, irrelevant of what certain people want.

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by HDThoreaun on Thursday March 19, 2026 @10:11PM (#47449563)
Sure, I agree, but this isnt a technocracy. If you want the government to change you do need to convince the voters at large.

> The majority of voters would vote to make income tax zero

Im not sure this is true. Most people recognize the taxes are needed for the government to provide services.

> That doesn’t mean everyone should shrug and say “it’s the will of the people”

This is the reality though, it doesnt matter that you or I disagree. Trump is the legitimate president even if he's a racist, homophobic pedophile convicted felon.

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by torginus on Thursday March 19, 2026 @12:20PM (#47441890)
There are a bunch of successful models, people usually mention Vienna as having a particularly effective housing policy - what they did is the city bought up a bunch of land, and built housing on top of it in various government subsidy programs, from non-profit public benefit corporations, to social housing for the poor.

They have strong renters rights, protections against rent increases, and high standards to which dwellings must conform to.

So while you can be a landlord in Vienna, you have to compete with affordable housing options, and you're forced to maintain a high quality yourself.

So that means that unless you can offer something the market's willing to pay extra for, being a landlord is not particularly lucrative thing.

Notice nowhere in my post did I mention the typical 'landlords are evil and must be taxed to death' approach.

Which is in stark contrast to most places where you're paying through the nose, the standard of rented dwellings is low and your rent can be increased or you can be kicked out on moments notice.

Re:Austin's Surge of New Housing Construction Drove Down Rents by WalterBright on Thursday March 19, 2026 @04:20PM (#47445374)
> Why do countries allow housing prices to rise then?

Because if you forcibly keep housing prices low, you have a shortage.