Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics
by idiotsecant on Monday February 23, 2026 @07:41AM
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This is silly. Cameras are cheap. Have both. Sensors that sense differently in different conditions is not an exotic new problem. The kalman filter has existed for about a billion years and machine learning filters do an even better job.
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Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics
by nlitened on Monday February 23, 2026 @08:34AM
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Cameras are cheap, but, as I understand:
1) it's not cheap to produce lidars at a stable predictable quality in millions;
2) car driving training data sets for lidars are much scarcer (and will always be much scarcer due to cameras' higher prevalence) and at a much lower quality;
3) combined camera+lidar data sets are even scarcer.
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics
by tzs on Monday February 23, 2026 @10:54AM
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1. Automotive LiDAR is down to $350 in China already. BYD is starting to put LiDAR in even entry level cars. (It's been in their mid and high end cars for a while).
2+3. BYD collects extensive training data from customers, much like Tesla does. They will have no trouble with training.
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics
by afavour on Monday February 23, 2026 @09:18AM
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Doesn’t that make it a sensible long term play to equip your car with $200 LIDAR and start gathering that data as a competitive advantage?
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics
by jeltz on Monday February 23, 2026 @09:27AM
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Yeah, this is all about Musk not wanting to admit he was wrong.
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics
by Mawr on Monday February 23, 2026 @06:56PM
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> 1) it's not cheap to produce lidars at a stable predictable quality in millions;
It wasn't cheap to produce accelerometers at a stable predictable quality in millions before smart phones either. Mass production shakes things up somewhat. See the headline for reference.