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Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by duiker101 on Friday October 26, 2012 @04:28AM (#4701347)
"A judge said we must apology because we are cooler and so Samsung didn't copy because they aren't cool. But other judges said that we are cooler and Samsung still copied us! So we must be right!" Sincerely: a 6 year old.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by amvp on Friday October 26, 2012 @04:52AM (#4701419)
Didn't the order require the statement to be:

  1. Made on the home page itself
  2. In a 14pt font which (according to http://www.getallfix.com/2011/11/convert-empxpt-and-in-css/) should be some 19px high.
Instead this is a link to the statement (in a div with the class sosume - little gag there) in a 11px font size... not to mention the fact that the additional paragraphs after the statement itself somewhat go against the spirit of the order.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by Tyrannosaurs on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:54AM (#4701543)
The appeal court revised it slightly - it basically just has to be linked from the home page which it is (by which them mean the Apple UK home page, not the US one - it's a UK ruling). It's down in the bottom navigation with the privacy policy, terms and so on.

They also revised the time it has to be there down from 6 months to 1 month.

Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by Nursie on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:01AM (#4701435)
It says websites, it does then go on to give URL's, but these are the top level URLs for various EU countries, so I guess they could argue it is on their website.

Open to interpretation, IMHO, though I would have assumed the judge meant the front pages.

Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by stordoff on Friday October 26, 2012 @10:16AM (#4702215)
It was modified in the appeal:

>Mr Carr [for Samsung] realistically recognised that Apple had a genuine interest in keeping it uncluttered. He proposed that instead of requiring the notice to be on the web page itself, it would be sufficient if there were a link provided from that to the notice. There are some links already provided. All that need be added is a link entitled "Samsung/Apple UK judgment." I think that would be appropriate and proportionate.

Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by jdswain on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:47AM (#4701531)
The sosumi div is used worldwide, and is the name of the div for legal links on Apples home page, it's not new for this notice. A good historical reference, but nothing to do with this legal judgement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosumi

Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by rb12345 on Friday October 26, 2012 @08:00AM (#4701806)
Apparently only the print version needs to be 14pt; the web version can be 11pt Arial. At 96 DPI, 11pt Arial is slightly larger than the 14px used on the site. Good luck reading it on retina displays, too, although it's possible that the iPad and friends rescale it.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by coob on Friday October 26, 2012 @06:14AM (#4701580)
The statement itself is 14px
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by shanelja on Friday October 26, 2012 @04:50AM (#4701410)
I couldn't agree more, Apples response here is childish and to be quite frank doesn't do much in the way of apologizing to Samsung. I for one hope that they get found in contempt of court for this, I doubt very much it's what the presiding judge had in mind.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by anaran on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:59AM (#4701552)
Yep, I don't see how this can be interpreted as an apology. Looks like a rant to me.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by epo on Friday October 26, 2012 @01:22PM (#4703200)
Oh do pay attention, Apple were not asked to apologise.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by mtrimpe on Friday October 26, 2012 @04:51AM (#4701416)
I hope I will be forgiven a me-too comment for once; but this is a really, really childish response.

When your big advantage is that you and your products exude class where others don't, gloating about it like a little kid just feels very wrong.

Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by bruceboughton on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:45AM (#4701527)
The people who will read this statement will have already made up their minds.

Casual visitors to apple.com/uk are not going to read this.

Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by pervycreeper on Friday October 26, 2012 @04:57AM (#4701428)
One would think that a company with $.12 trillion in the bank could afford to be classy once in a while.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by shanelja on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:04AM (#4701441)
Apple tends to be fairly ruthless in their dealings with other companies and act without remorse (like many other companies, Samsung of course included) and it's become the only way to survive in the horrific world of IP law suits.

Unfortunately, the class you mention tends to be overshadowed by this. Apple can't afford to be classy, if it gives up it's bullying ways for even a short period of time, it will find that Samsung responds not in kind, but will sense weakness and launch an even stronger offence.

What we have now is a case of mutually assured destruction, eventually both companies will be so wrapped up in legal dealings and spiteful actions that they will lose sight on what's really important: giving your customers cool and functional gadgets to play with, which as well as being bad for both of these companies is also bad for the industry and we, the consumers.

Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by lutze on Friday October 26, 2012 @06:32AM (#4701605)
You can be ruthless AND classy, they're not mutually exclusive.

They were ordered to give an apology, and instead forwarded a conceited, weasley worded temper tantrum. There's nothing ruthless about that, it's something toddlers do every day.

Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by scotty79 on Friday October 26, 2012 @06:47AM (#4701625)
So far Samsung only fights with Apple with whole slew of superior products. Well... also Samsung marketing makes fun of Apple marketing if that counts as a fight.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by josephlord on Friday October 26, 2012 @09:16AM (#4702005)
And brings legal actions around the world wanting injunctions against Apple products for infringing standards essential patents or did you miss that?

Apple is certainly no angel but if you think Samsung is a company with no ethical concerns or that it isn't a ruthless competitor you haven't been looking very closely. [No very large company is completely free of ethical issues. I'm not aware of Samsung being over the line to the extent that I wouldn't work for them on that basis.]

Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by v0cab on Friday October 26, 2012 @06:55AM (#4701642)
Oh, there was also the little incident where foreign phones were blocked from South Korea, including the original iPhone for two years.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by scotty79 on Saturday October 27, 2012 @04:27AM (#4705727)
Can you point me to some news coverage of this?

So far I've found: http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-seeking-block-sales-up... Article claims it was just mirroring of Apple court strategy.

I don't know if that's the same thing here: http://www.firstpost.com/tech/south-korea-court-bans-both-ap... But if so then it didn't turn out particularly good for either of the companies.

There was also a bit of government protectionism in South Korea http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125367616595333125.html?mod=... but I think you can't attribute this to Samsung offensive action.

Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by bruceboughton on Friday October 26, 2012 @05:53AM (#4701539)
This is a rather pessimistic view. Companies have always been ruthless towards each other and life seems to continue on regardless.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by epo on Friday October 26, 2012 @01:34PM (#4703273)
But this is a very classy piece of copywriting.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by praptak on Friday October 26, 2012 @06:57AM (#4701646)
"The defendant will now revoke the false accusations."

"Goldstein is not a crook?! Goldstein is not a thief?!"

"This intonation does not sound like a revocation at all."

"Your honour, I have read what has been written. The intonation has not been written here."

"Well, then at least apologize!"

"I apologize that Goldstein is a crook! I apologize that Goldstein is a thief!"

Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by epo on Friday October 26, 2012 @01:25PM (#4703220)
I read this imagining Woody Allen reading it out, excellent.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by chris_wot on Friday October 26, 2012 @08:29AM (#4701866)
What's that from?
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by praptak on Friday October 26, 2012 @09:06AM (#4701963)
I vaguely remember the source. It was a book of Jewish humour, unfortunately I don't remember the title.
Re:Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung by Tyrannosaurs on Friday October 26, 2012 @06:10AM (#4701571)
Personally I'd have gone for dry as dust legalese, made the first two paragraphs legal gibberish under the guise of background and by the time you got to the actual meat of the statement no-one would have been reading.

But to be honest given what the judge actually said, he surely can't have expected anything else? Cherry picking was obviously going to be an option for Apple and he frankly gave them the cherry to end all cherries.