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> Why can't they let their products sell and speak for themselves?

The original iPhone was banned in South Korea for two years. It seems that this was to give South Korean companies a chance to catch up.

> It's hard for many to accept that their ability to read other people is only as accurate as flipping a coin, but that's what we've got evidence for.

Does anyone have any links that support this? Thanks if so.

But the original iPhone was banned from South Korea for 2 years, almost certainly at Samsung's behest.

> their actions seem to be deliberately designed to suppress the market and suppress competition

But then why aren't people on HN down on Samsung in the same way?

Oh, there was also the little incident where foreign phones were blocked from South Korea, including the original iPhone for two years.

How do you feel about Samsung's behavior?

Great post. I am in South Korea. I could be imprisoned for the the things I have written here about Samsung and their owning family.

> Do you think it would have been more or less severe if you were had the extra responsibilities and commitments that came with being in a controlling position of the company?

I don't know. Is being a shareholder particularly stressful? Do Scandinavians find that their unions sitting on work councils and having a say in major company decisions increases job stress?

> So? They didn't sign up for (being filthy rich). I don't expect to get paid $200k a year when I sign a contract saying I will get paid $50k.

Contracts can be renegotiated.

> Wouldn't being put in a controlling share of a company only make that situation worse?

Depends on the situation. I believe that the current state of research indicates that people are more stressed by situations outside of their control. I guess the company would have limited liability, so not too much financial risk and much to gain financially. Of course, financial worries are a major source of stress for most stressed people.

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> In what virtually reality does one go from "employee" to actually being entitled to own a piece of a company?

In the startup world? Legal practices?

> I have taken trips to the hospital due to the stress caused by business issues.

Same here, but as an employee. And I didn't end up owning a company in the end.

> None of my employees ever missed a paycheck or had to worry about where payroll money would come from. Every.

None of them ended up filthy rich either. I'm in my 30s and am reluctant to get married and have kids because of uncertainty over my future. My industry is flooded with labour, pay keeps going down and management keeps getting more unreasonable.

> What nonsense.

Enjoy your company's bankruptcy then.

Well, what are your interests?

I keep Redditing, but unsubscribe from most of the default subreddits, and subscribe to TrueReddit, TrueAtheism, and whatever else holds my interest.

Why did the union keep demanding more and more?

Why didn't management just make all employees joint owners of the company?

To be fair, Samsung almost certainly had a hand in banning the original iPhone for two years in South Korea.

Apple don't make that many products themselves.

If the Samsung Galaxy S Note S2 Ultra S is banned in the US, consumers will still be able to buy the Samsung Galaxy S Note S2 Ultra X.

When Samsung had the South Korean government block the original iPhone from South Korea, it was Apple's only phone.

You can hardly take the ethical high-ground if you've been buying Samsung products.

> Apple is seeking to entirely kill off an industry competitor from the marketplace

Samsung had the South Korean government block the iPhone from South Korea for two years when it was released.

Why do companies from other countries stand little chance of being successful in the US?

Developed Asian countries do do as much as they can to block US companies; that's the problem. South Korea is being protected by the US, but they are a prime offender. Obama was quite vocal about this before he started running for president.

Is there something wrong with wishing to be economically prosperous now?

What do you classify as 'xenophobia'? How can I avoid falling victim to it? How can I make my arguments more rational in future?

For what it's worth, I have lived in Asia for several years, speak three languages, and my opinions are influenced by the Korean economist Ha-Joon Chang, so I'm trying my best.

I agree about patents, but Samsung have some terrible business practices too.

We need to get rid of these kinds of patents and find new ways to protect US (or European, whatever) companies so that we don't keep getting screwed over by Asian countries blocking our products/services/companies and cloning them.

Yeah but my parent poster described Apple as a bully, when Samsung initiated this whole thing.

And how about Samsung? Their business practices are disgusting.

Consumers are also people who need jobs.

If Asian companies can just clone our products and block our products from sale in their countries, there will be fewer jobs for Americans, Europeans and Australians.

Let us remember that Samsung have the South Korean government in their pocket, and they already acted to stop the iPhone from being sold for two years in South Korea when it was released, to give Samsung a chance to catch up and make more money from the domestic (South Korean) market.

Why on earth is HackerNews so pro-Samsung?

Apple created something new. Samsung had it blocked from South Korea for two years so that they could clone it. Samsung freeloaded on Apple's innovation -- Apple barely had first mover advantage.

I'm not a huge fan of patents either but what can we do when countries like South Korea break every free trade agreement they make? Our politicians are only looking at the short-term election horizon and don't bother to call South Korea out on their BS.

Apple created something new. Samsung had it blocked from South Korea for two years so that they could clone it and try to corner the domestic (South Korean) market.

I'm not a huge fan of patents either but what can we do when countries like South Korea break every free trade agreement they make? Our politicians are only looking at the short-term election horizon and don't bother to call South Korea out on their BS.

What a crappy website. I've tried 15 times to submit a reply to a comment on that article and each time I get 'Your comment does not pass our spam filter. Please try again.' with no indication of what part of the comment is lacking.

The 'jail' is beneficial in that it allows high-quality apps to be made. If iOS users could just install apps from anywhere, piracy would mean a reduction in the quality and quantity of apps that developers are willing to make for it.

Even tech-savvy people buy iOS devices knowing that they are restricted in this way, and reap the benefits.